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I mean frankly speaking people on the reddit BO say the dumbest shit 24/7 so I'm not exactly sure you should be that bothered that they think you're bad or anything lmao

 

To be wrong is only human anyway, you're not the first and won't be the last

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12 minutes ago, M37 said:

I’m certainly wrong my fair share (just go browse the club forum!), but just don’t feel like this is one of those times (would feel a bit better if I had kept upper bound at $110 instead of $105 though)

 

The first paragraph is basically how I read those posts but why aren't these two claims above contradictory? How would you describe your high and low estimates for film based on pre-sale tracking. 

 

Part of this is simply that I don't think this was what a "99th percentile" outcome for GOTG3 looks like from that point even if Disney's additional pushes are above average. GotG3's word of mouth was really good (possibly better than previous GotG films) but all three have been vaguely in the same ballpark and no one seems to think any one specific bit of late marketing truly broke out.  

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5 minutes ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

 

what's the last film with a similar OW trendline? I suspect there's a conceptual problem with small sample sizes here treating the MCU as its own universe.  Basically, what's the actual 25th/75th percentile ranges which is hard to estimate when intra-franchise quality correlation with previous films seems to be easy to over or understate.  

Its not MCU, but the answer is Batman. Very similar final week sales push, a +24%/-21% Sat & Sun vs +27%/-19%.

 

Batman also had a 7.88x Wed to 2nd weekend multiplier, and I'm expecting roughly the same here, where a $7.5M Wed puts $60M (-50%) potentially in play

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2 minutes ago, M37 said:

Its not MCU, but the answer is Batman. Very similar final week sales push, a +24%/-21% Sat & Sun vs +27%/-19%.

 

Batman also had a 7.88x Wed to 2nd weekend multiplier, and I'm expecting roughly the same here, where a $7.5M Wed puts $60M (-50%) potentially in play

 

Not that it matters TOO much b/c it's audience definitely skewed up, but 2nd weekend Batman was the weekend that started the normal big college spring break week...

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5 minutes ago, PlatnumRoyce said:

The first paragraph is basically how I read those posts but why aren't these two claims above contradictory? How would you describe your high and low estimates for film based on pre-sale tracking. 

Its based on what I believe are reasonable midpoints and ranges for both Thursday preview based on sales and IM based on history. Both of those are of course subjective, and the problem with working with a smaller and messy data set is you don't truly know what is an outlier vs just a higher end result. And not winding up with a $40-$50M range for a forecast, its probably going to be be shaded one way or another. That's why I started posting the Forecast Matrix, because that's essentially the thought process and shows it all in one shot

 

At that time, both the volume and pace of sales was so bad that it didn't seem reasonable to forecast a high end/outlier result for both the Thursday value and the IM; it wasn't like Avatar where it was clear Saturday was going to be huge and a lower Thursday wasn't as worrisome. The more likely outcomes were that it picked up for Thursday but IM-ed like a normal MCU film or Thursday stayed weaker and the IM was bigger. Both of those could have gotten to me ~$110, but it took a high end result on both to get to the $118M actual.

 

The only reason AMWQ didn't miss the $100-$130 forecast I had put out despite Thursday finishing so weak was because the holiday weekend helped boost the IM/weekend above what it probably would have done opening in like March

 

 

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1 hour ago, M37 said:

Yeah, this is what is frustrating, that it was treated at some grand prediction rather than “shit better change or this could be ugly” waiving the red flag warning.

Remember getting the same thing with r/boxoffice when I said sub-100 could happen. This wasn’t a grand proclamation, but then I got featured on Reddit and people started dooming and glooming because they were bored. It’s very annoying. And to you r/boxoffice posters/lurkers, please don’t do that to my posts again. I don’t like it.

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Daily Domestic Chart for Tuesday May 9, 2023

    Movie Title Gross %YD %LW Theaters Per
Theater
Total
Gross
Days In
Release
- (1) Guardians of the Galaxy V… $25,200,000 +182%   4,450 $5,663 $152,539,062 5
- (3) Evil Dead Rise $660,000 +18% -47% 3,036 $217 $55,472,122 19
- (6) Love Again $415,000 +80%   2,703 $154 $3,026,207 5
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3 minutes ago, Skim Beeble said:

Daily Domestic Chart for Tuesday May 9, 2023

    Movie Title Gross %YD %LW Theaters Per
Theater
Total
Gross
Days In
Release
- (1) Guardians of the Galaxy V… $25,200,000 +182%   4,450 $5,663 $152,539,062 5
- (3) Evil Dead Rise $660,000 +18% -47% 3,036 $217 $55,472,122 19
- (6) Love Again $415,000 +80%   2,703 $154 $3,026,207 5

Lol, they just added international and domestic numbers together.

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3 minutes ago, Skim Beeble said:

Daily Domestic Chart for Tuesday May 9, 2023

    Movie Title Gross %YD %LW Theaters Per
Theater
Total
Gross
Days In
Release
- (1) Guardians of the Galaxy V… $25,200,000 +182%   4,450 $5,663 $152,539,062 5
- (3) Evil Dead Rise $660,000 +18% -47% 3,036 $217 $55,472,122 19
- (6) Love Again $415,000 +80%   2,703 $154 $3,026,207 5

So we are likely looking at 30mn Wed, then 40mn Thurs and finally for a 210 mn 2nd weekend and a likely total above GWTW adjusted. The real WOM hit is here.

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8 minutes ago, Skim Beeble said:

Daily Domestic Chart for Tuesday May 9, 2023

    Movie Title Gross %YD %LW Theaters Per
Theater
Total
Gross
Days In
Release
- (1) Guardians of the Galaxy V… $25,200,000 +182%   4,450 $5,663 $152,539,062 5
- (3) Evil Dead Rise $660,000 +18% -47% 3,036 $217 $55,472,122 19
- (6) Love Again $415,000 +80%   2,703 $154 $3,026,207 5

 

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