Steve Rogers Birthday Bash Weekend Thread | 5-Day #s: Indy 83.4, Elemental 18, Spidey 17.65, Sound of Freedom 14.2, No Hard Feelings 11.3

[Borobudur]

1 hour ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

Rise of the Beasts > Fast X domestic ?

Definitely at this rate. Fast X suffered the worst among May-June stampede. The movie only has a more quiet week until sixth weekend.  

[Bob Train]

Fast X  should've been August release like Hobbs and Shaw

 

TLM is good for mothers day and Indy for Memorial day

 

Rise of the Beasts for September and Haunted Mansion for October

[Liiviig 1998]

6 minutes ago, Bob Train said:

Rogue One had like three good scenes at the end but people act like it's the second coming of christ

Would have loved alittle more time with the characters but acting is solid across and K2SO is a delight.

Two really solid acts and fantastic final act. One of the best third acts in the entire franchise. 

Second favorite starwars film.

 

Really don't understand the fanservice criticism . Sure there a bits with vadar being the biggest one but it all makes sense why he is there since he has a strong tie in to the beginning of NWH 

 

Characters maynot pop off strong screen presence like TFA  but it avoids pitfall  leaning to heavily into the nostalgia like TFA.

 

 

 

 

 

[Liiviig 1998]

10 minutes ago, Ryan Reynolds said:

movie is clunky , Vader fan service elevates it for some

Dude vadar appears for like 5 mins the whole movie.

 

Just stop making assumptions . Some may find it boring or not like it but it was pretty well received .

 

 

 

 

[Dominic Draper]

I liked rogue one because it actually went through with the ending and didn't cop out and it actually felt like a war film with some breath taking action. That and it actually made a new hope a stronger film with the detail of why that weakness existed.

 

It's the only Disney star wars film I like.

[Ryan Reynolds]

4 minutes ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

Dude vadar appears for like 5 mins the whole movie.

 

Just stop making assumptions . Some may find it boring or not like it but it was pretty well received .

 

 

 

 

its not boring , it jumps around a bit too much and has pacing problems until settle downs in third act , i get it they needed some fanservice if they were going for a downer ending

[stripe]

5 hours ago, Flopped said:

 

 

Could we see Indy over Transformers OW after all? 

[baumer]

6 hours ago, Flopped said:

 

 

Canadian holiday effect!

[MCKillswitch123]

Not sure if these were posted already:

 

Domestic Box Office For Jul 3, 2023

TD	YD	Release	Daily	%± YD	%± LW	Theaters	Avg	To Date	Days	Distributor

1	1	Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny	$12,000,000	-29.4%	-	4,600	$2,608	$72,000,000	4	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
2	3	Elemental	$2,600,000	-29.7%	-1.6%	3,650	$712	$91,378,805	18	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
3	6	The Little Mermaid	$1,200,000	-29.4%	-9.1%	2,430	$493	$282,198,328	39	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
4	10	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3	$400,000	-27.3%	-20.1%	1,165	$343	$355,275,623	60	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
5	11	Past Lives	$381,354	-20%	+135.1%	906	$420	$6,240,624	32	A24
6	12	The Boogeyman	$325,000	-31.6%	-19.4%	1,020	$318	$41,287,215	32	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
7	18	You Hurt My Feelings	$12,424	-20%	+23.5%	68	$182	$4,735,152	39	A24

 

Domestic Box Office For Jul 4, 2023

 

YD	Release	Daily	%± YD	%± LW	Theaters	Avg	To Date	Days	Distributor

1	1	Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny	$10,000,000	-16.7%	-	4,600	$2,173	$82,000,000	5	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
2	2	Elemental	$2,300,000	-11.5%	-42.8%	3,650	$630	$93,678,805	19	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
3	3	The Little Mermaid	$1,100,000	-8.3%	-38.7%	2,430	$452	$283,298,328	40	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
4	4	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3	$350,000	-12.5%	-43%	1,165	$300	$355,625,623	61	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
5	5	Past Lives	$343,218	-10%	+62.2%	906	$378	$6,583,842	33	A24
6	6	The Boogeyman	$300,000	-7.7%	-31.2%	1,020	$294	$41,587,215	33	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
7	7	You Hurt My Feelings	$11,181	-10%	-16.6%	68	$164	$4,746,332	40	A24

 

 

Edited July 3, 2023 by MCKillswitch123

[Hatebox]

3 hours ago, Bob Train said:

Rogue One had like three good scenes at the end but people act like it's the second coming of christ

Yeah, it’s really not great. In no small part to its main character, who they forgot to actually give a character. She’s the biggest nothing-burger ever, and it’s a film that desperately needed a lead to care about.
 

As SW media goes it’s interesting only in so much as its grittier look and feel set a template for the shows, which they’ve mostly stuck to ever since. 

Edited July 3, 2023 by Hatebox

[lorddemaxus]

The mediocrity of Rogue One was made up by the fact that it is the reason we got Andor (and its insane how much better the latter is in terms of just the executing of the heist sequences).

[toutvabien]

29 minutes ago, MCKillswitch123 said:

Not sure if these were posted already:

 

Domestic Box Office For Jul 3, 2023

TD	YD	Release	Daily	%± YD	%± LW	Theaters	Avg	To Date	Days	Distributor

1	1	Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny	$12,000,000	-29.4%	-	4,600	$2,608	$72,000,000	4	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
2	3	Elemental	$2,600,000	-29.7%	-1.6%	3,650	$712	$91,378,805	18	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
3	6	The Little Mermaid	$1,200,000	-29.4%	-9.1%	2,430	$493	$282,198,328	39	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
4	10	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3	$400,000	-27.3%	-20.1%	1,165	$343	$355,275,623	60	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
5	11	Past Lives	$381,354	-20%	+135.1%	906	$420	$6,240,624	32	A24
6	12	The Boogeyman	$325,000	-31.6%	-19.4%	1,020	$318	$41,287,215	32	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
7	18	You Hurt My Feelings	$12,424	-20%	+23.5%	68	$182	$4,735,152	39	A24

 

Domestic Box Office For Jul 4, 2023

 

YD	Release	Daily	%± YD	%± LW	Theaters	Avg	To Date	Days	Distributor

1	1	Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny	$10,000,000	-16.7%	-	4,600	$2,173	$82,000,000	5	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
2	2	Elemental	$2,300,000	-11.5%	-42.8%	3,650	$630	$93,678,805	19	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
3	3	The Little Mermaid	$1,100,000	-8.3%	-38.7%	2,430	$452	$283,298,328	40	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
4	4	Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 3	$350,000	-12.5%	-43%	1,165	$300	$355,625,623	61	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
5	5	Past Lives	$343,218	-10%	+62.2%	906	$378	$6,583,842	33	A24
6	6	The Boogeyman	$300,000	-7.7%	-31.2%	1,020	$294	$41,587,215	33	Walt Disney Studios Motion Pictures
7	7	You Hurt My Feelings	$11,181	-10%	-16.6%	68	$164	$4,746,332	40	A24

 

 

If this holds, The Little Mermaid will have 40 days over $1M damn.

[Valonqar]

10 hours ago, toutvabien said:

Since she stars in the film and I've seen her potential impact referenced here, they did probably think getting Waller-Bridge would increase interest in millennial and Gen Z women, but I don't think that was all that well utilized. Which makes me think, Waller-Bridge would be one of the most interesting voices in a possible come back era for the adult comedy in theaters we been talking about. But yea, I don't know how much interest she has in all that. A co-star role in big franchise like Indy is a crazy gig for her and she's doing a Tomb Raider show for Amazon so her career aspirations seem elsewhere for now.

 

That's as flawed thinking as that Zendaya followers would turn DUNC II into Titanic. The age of movie stars is over. People watch for concept. If audience that liked Fleabag or Euphoria isn't into Indiana Jones or hard sci fi like DUNC they won't show up period. It's when actor is in a concept appealing to their audience that things work but trying to get Fleabag audience interested in Jones and Jones audience interested in PWB is futlile. It's always better to cast someone who has street cred with the audience you target. I don't think that DoD would have done much better if Attwell or Ferguson were in it instead of PWB but there would be less whining at least. 

[FunkMiller]

1 hour ago, Valonqar said:

 

That's as flawed thinking as that Zendaya followers would turn DUNC II into Titanic. The age of movie stars is over. People watch for concept. If audience that liked Fleabag or Euphoria isn't into Indiana Jones or hard sci fi like DUNC they won't show up period. It's when actor is in a concept appealing to their audience that things work but trying to get Fleabag audience interested in Jones and Jones audience interested in PWB is futlile. It's always better to cast someone who has street cred with the audience you target. I don't think that DoD would have done much better if Attwell or Ferguson were in it instead of PWB but there would be less whining at least. 

 

Indiana Jones has always been a male skewing IP. If you're going to introduce a successor, or even just a new sidekick into the franchise, it needs to be male if you want it to succeed.

 

By all means spend a lot of time and money creating new female protagonists and stories to put them in - hell, maybe do that instead of resurrecting franchises from the 80s - but don't be surprised if putting female protagonists into male skewing franchises isn't as successful as you'd like. And equally don't be surprised if you fuel a bunch of misogynists and basement dwellers on social media.

 

Make the actual f**king effort to create something new, instead of falling back on something old. It's bloody lazy, and extremely cynical and I'm glad it's now failed many times.

Edited July 3, 2023 by FunkMiller

[4815162342]

6 hours ago, Claudio said:

Just dropping by to say this is the third best Star Wars movie.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Amended slightly

[John Marston]

Dial of Destiny and Little Mermaid should have swapped released dates. DoD then could have taken advantage of Memorial Day and Father's Day and be farther away from adult targeted competition like Dead Reckoning and Oppenheimer. Another blunder from Disney

[TwoMisfits]

5 hours ago, Bob Train said:

Fast X  should've been August release like Hobbs and Shaw

 

TLM is good for mothers day and Indy for Memorial day

 

Rise of the Beasts for September and Haunted Mansion for October

 

Fast X is over $700M WW at $707M today...while not what they might have wanted DOM, they've gotten over 2.08x WW (on a $340M budget), and will likely get to 2.1-2.15x.  With the market as it is, they've got to be very happy.

 

So, Fast X had the right release date to sky in the markets they would go high in - the worldwide ones.

 

 

[MysteryMovieMogul]

It's obvious Haunted Mansion is only releasing in theaters this early so it can premiere on Disney+ in October, right? Disney is 100% trying to train families to wait for streaming. Like, that has to be the long game.

[wildphantom]

2 minutes ago, MysteryMovieMogul said:

It's obvious Haunted Mansion is only releasing in theaters this early so it can premiere on Disney+ in October, right? Disney is 100% trying to train families to wait for streaming. Like, that has to be the long game.

well they can’t be trying to do that as so far it’s losing them hundreds of millions. 

 

They obviously think it’ll play nicely in that late summer slot, and I think it probably will. 

[PlatnumRoyce]

9 hours ago, Day and Date The Best said:

Jurassic World Dominion has a NET BUDGET, Repeat NET, not Gross of 265 million dollars Fallen Kingdom of ~431 Million dollars Net too. 

Second most expensive film after Star Wars Episode VII, A lot of times when you see a film say they costed X  million it really costed way more. That 2 billion to break even Avatar 2 news might be true and the budget really be over 460 approaching billion for a movie, it could be if the context of Episode Vii and Jurassic World movies costing more than reported initially applies to it too. 

Cool, thanks for sharing.

 

The Avatar Way of Water 2 billion claim can't really be described as news when it emerged as an extrapolation from a boisterous anecdote James Cameron was recounting. It's the sort of thing you should treat inherently skeptically. The New Zealand tax credit data we have doesn't really support it.