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[Deep Wang]

Thinking back on it, Tomorrow Never Dies and Titanic was a pretty comparable Barbenheimer.

 

3 hour long romance vs James Bond action flick

 

Both did $25m+ opening the same weekend.

[Celedhring]

2 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

It had the second biggest December opening weekend at the time which was only set the weekend before, that's not particularly low key

 

Yeah, it wasn't a low opening for the era - big December openings are a relatively new development, which is why - at the time - not many studios scheduled big budget movies in December, even with the good legs.  One of the reasons why most people thought Titanic would lose a tremendous amount of money even if it was successful. 

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, Celedhring said:

 

Yeah, it wasn't a low opening for the era - big December openings are a relatively new development, which is why - at the time - not many studios scheduled big budget movies in December, even with the good legs.  One of the reasons why most people thought Titanic would lose a tremendous amount of money even if it was successful. 

I remember reading that on film mags from that time, yeah. 

[4815162342]

44 minutes ago, excel1 said:

 

LOL everyone know THG wasn't beating GOAT TDK

 

Think you're definitely forgetting the very justified panic the Nolanites had.

 

The only reason Catching Fire didn't pass TDK was because it dropped like a stone on Sunday. It was $8-9 million ahead of TDK after Friday/Saturday.

[Gavin Feng]

30 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

Titanic was a run from an era, that was long over even in 1997/98. A sort of last hurrah from box office runs from the old days in the 40s, 50s, 60s and 70s. The fading twilight of movie blockbusters as year-long events.

 

There will never be a run like Titanic ever again.

 

 

 

the way communication and sharing work is now very different. It's too hard to ask people to enjoy things. Everybody want to catch something.

[Gavin Feng]

8 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

Thinking back on it, Tomorrow Never Dies and Titanic was a pretty comparable Barbenheimer.

 

3 hour long romance vs James Bond action flick

 

Both did $25m+ opening the same weekend.

 

Oppenheimer $600M DOM lifetime confirmed.

[Krissykins]

 

 

[KC7]

370 pages!

 

 

[vale9001]

To understand Titanic you have to Imagine a world when a movie exists only on the big screen and first time you can see It again if you don't go to the theater again is on vhs 13 14 months after the release.

 

Imagine how it's our world and Kids and young people creativity, their impulse to make meme, analyze every scene...this impulse always been there so the only think you can make is to pay a ticket to watch and watch again until every scene is memorized and you can talk about them with all your Friends (After One time you forget every dialogue after 3 days, all the movie in a couple of weeks).

 

So at the time you got millions people watching a movie 10 times. Going there every month maybe.

 

Now most people go to the big screen cause they want to live the experience with others the first time but then the day After every scene of a movie is on the social networks. 

Edited July 23, 2023 by vale9001

[M37]

7 minutes ago, SchumacherFTW said:

It had the second biggest December opening weekend at the time which was only set the weekend before, that's not particularly low key

But that’s more a reflection of what studios typically placed in December back then: family films, dramas, musicals, award contenders, all known for legs not OW. Or opened films on Christmas Day itself, which throws off the OW number.

 

So yeah, it was big for December, and with normal legs probably finishes close to if not over $200M, top 3 if not winning the year. Approaching level of major hits like Toy Story, Men in Black, Twister, even Lost World

[SchumacherFTW]

1 minute ago, M37 said:

But that’s more a reflection of what studios typically placed in December back then: family films, dramas, musicals, award contenders, all known for legs not OW. Or opened films on Christmas Day itself, which throws off the OW number.

 

So yeah, it was big for December, and with normal legs probably finishes close to if not over $200M, top 3 if not winning the year. Approaching level of major hits like Toy Story, Men in Black, Twister, even Lost World

OK, let's think of it in comparison to the OW record for 97. The Lost World did 72m 3 day over memorial day, so Titanic is around 40/45% of the OW record for 97. The equivalent today would be say a 150m opening weekend. Wouldn't exactly call 30m mid level in that time at all

[Ororo Munroe]

1 hour ago, Krissykins said:

Yeh that would be incredible for Barbie.

 

Can’t believe we’re talking $400m+. I honestly thought this was one of the riskiest films of the year. 

We all may have underestimated Barbie's box office potential but I don't see how it was particularly risky. A popular, attractive female lead who's visually perfect for the role, a legitimate star as the male lead, a director with two critically acclaimed movies under her belt and the advantage of the Barbie name. I'd say WB always saw it as a pretty safe film with potential to turn a profit. 

Edited July 23, 2023 by Ororo Munroe

[JustLurking]

1 minute ago, M37 said:

But that’s more a reflection of what studios typically placed in December back then: family films, dramas, musicals, award contenders, all known for legs not OW. Or opened films on Christmas Day itself, which throws off the OW number.

 

So yeah, it was big for December, and with normal legs probably finishes close to if not over $200M, top 3 if not winning the year. Approaching level of major hits like Toy Story, Men in Black, Twister, even Lost World

This is true but I would say Titanic's OW even on another month would've been good for what it ultimately was aka a romance/drama, it was one of if not the biggest for the genre IIRC

 

big thing though is that the budget was not reflective of its genre at all and basically required it to play like a mega blockbuster, which it ultimately did.

[TalismanRing]

18 minutes ago, 4815162342 said:

 

Think you're definitely forgetting the very justified panic the Nolanites had.

 

The only reason Catching Fire didn't pass TDK was because it dropped like a stone on Sunday. It was $8-9 million ahead of TDK after Friday/Saturday.

 

Obviously because the Games of Death/NFL crossover was too big.  All those CF fans staying home to watch Peyton Manning. 

[titanic2187]

1 hour ago, kayumanggi said:

 

Nice, glad that A24 is still subscribe to the proper platform release. $10m for a micro-indie film is a big achievement. Next up, how will A24 handle Zone of Interest? 

[Krissykins]

2 minutes ago, Ororo Munroe said:

We all may have underestimated Barbie's box office potential but I don't see how it was particularly risky. A popular, attractive female lead who's visually perfect for the role, a legitimate star as the male lead, a director with two critically acclaimed movies under her belt and the advantage of the Barbie name. I'd say WB always saw it as a pretty safe film with potential to turn a profit. 

A film that was in development hell for years, Margot having a patchy box office history at best, female targeted movie in the blockbuster summer, over $100m budget, Barbie not having the best reputation for the past decade, countless failed IP film launches in recent years, toxicity online towards anything female driven etc etc etc.

 

It was a risk, this doesn’t happen often to female lead/targeted films.  

[Darth Lehnsherr]

14 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

 

[titanic2187]

16 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

 

 

When Crusie jump off the cliff for the movie, I didn't expect he mean it metaphorically for the movie's BO run as well.

[charlie Jatinder]

12 hours ago, across the Jat verse said:

Yeah mid 30s mostly

Scratch that. Should be surely over 40. Possibly 42.

[Ororo Munroe]

2 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

A film that was in development hell for years, Margot having a patchy box office history at best, female targeted movie in the blockbuster summer, over $100m budget, Barbie not having the best reputation for the past decade, countless failed IP film launches in recent years, toxicity online towards anything female driven etc etc etc.

 

It was a risk, this doesn’t happen often to female lead/targeted films.  

Margot propped up by the Barbie brand is not a risk, neither is female targeted movie in the blockbuster summer, given that we've already seen that they can succeed. And Barbie is still Barbie. Simply not seeing much risk there.