The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[TalismanRing]

AMC 84th Street 6

 

127/161 (3D)
108/145 (3D)
90/161 (3D)
93/145 (3D)

149/154 (Fan Event)

 

567/ 766 = 74%

 

I cant count the measly two 2D shows b/c they're blank when I open them.  Might explain why the four 3D shows are doing so well.

 

 

[charlie Jatinder]

On 7/2/2019 at 7:02 PM, Menor said:

Cinemark tracking (FFH OD, as of early this morning)

 

Theaters: 226

Showings: 4711

Ticket sales: 207889 (estimating from sellouts)

Available: 635354

Estimated ATP: $10.36

Total estimated sales: $2,153,424

 

Looks like these theaters account for about 10% of market share going by Charlie's numbers.

 

1 minute ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

I guess you are asking Far From Home final Friday pre-sales. They were $19.5mn Approx

So around 8.8x, playing safe say 8x Cinemark for TLK. You are right with your numbers.

[Menor the Destroyer]

4 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

I guess you are asking Far From Home final Friday pre-sales. They were $19.5mn Approx.

Thanks! Going by that FFH was about 9x Cinemark, so my 8x multiplier accounting for kids tickets is a bit conservative but probably not too far off. Going by a conservative multiplier both previews and Friday presales will be in the 20-21 million range, using that multi for FFH it will be about 23 million..

[Tinalera]

Toronto ontario canada 
The Lion King
July 18

Scotiabank Theatre

IMAX
630 313/416
930 251/416

 

Queensway 

VIP
630 130/136
700 121/136
930 115/136
1000 123/136

 

AVX
630 207/377
700 248/377
930. 159/377
1000 110/377

 

Recliner
615 124/279
95 72/279

 

Yonge and dundas

 

VIP
650 74/77 (so without wheelchair)
950. 68/77

ULTRAAVX
750 220/377
1020 58/377

720 67/82
920 46/78

Recliner
610 136/228
650 194/228
700 0/246
815 135/227
900 81/227
1000 33/227
1015 2/275
1050 3/227

 

4dx
600 76/77 (so w/o wheel)
900 63/77

 

Final count before previews
Lion king should do pretty healthy up here i think. Seems to be a healthy amount. 

 

Edited July 18, 2019 by Tinalera
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[narniadis]

As always thank yall! I know its been much more work since Pulse went down. 

[RamblinRed]

40 minutes ago, narniadis said:

As always thank yall! I know its been much more work since Pulse went down. 

I second this. I know this is alot of work for those that do it and it is a hopefully labor of love the I appreciate.

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Menor said:

TLK Thurs:

Theaters: 231

Showings: 4406 (+500 in 2 days)

Seats Sold: 143060 (+40721)

Seats Available: 511799 (+44748)

Estimated ATP: 12.42

Estimated Total Sales: 1776463 (+491878)

Estimated Nationwide Sales: 14.2 million (+3.9 million)

Trending similarly to CM's trends on Pulse. Based on that Thursday should add about 5 million from online sales alone, 20+ previews depending on how big walkups are.

Sacto pointed to 14.38m in total sales as of last night for what it's worth. 👍

 

I know there was a fair amount of discussion after this about what multi to use and why, but I just wanted to chime in about that ratio.

 

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, captainwondyful said:

Aweome.  If you can do that tonight! 

 

@Porthos is a CHAMPION and got last night!!!

 

Tracking Thread would absolute slay it at SDCC Line Teams by the way.  #TeamWork

You're very very welcome and glad to help out.

 

None chance I'm doing it today though.

 

[Sunny Max]

12 hours ago, ThomasNicole said:

The previews screenings ended here on Brazil, people on social media are raving it and everyone is talking about how much they're crying and enjoy it

Huge grosser incoming .... 

[EarlyDeadlinePredictions]

 

[MattW]

4 minutes ago, EarlyDeadlinePredictions said:

 

Wow, that's amazing.  Disney very clearly on a new strategy compared to when they released Force Awakens. I remember a lot of people being surprised at the theater count (me included) and speculating it was because they were negotiating for a higher percentage which turned a lot of theaters off.

 

My sense right now browsing through the thread is high teens, 17-19m in previews, and an IM up to the level of Incredibles 2, 9.8 or so which would put the OW in the 170-190 range.

[john2000]

3 hours ago, Menor said:

Thanks! Going by that FFH was about 9x Cinemark, so my 8x multiplier accounting for kids tickets is a bit conservative but probably not too far off. Going by a conservative multiplier both previews and Friday presales will be in the 20-21 million range, using that multi for FFH it will be about 23 million..

23 million in previews ?

[Taruseth]

13 minutes ago, EarlyDeadlinePredictions said:

 

The bloody fuck, what? That is crazy, so we might actually some time see a movie in 5k locations.

Considering that is almost 200 theatres above the record before this year.

Also above Endgame, wow.

[Molek]

6 minutes ago, MattW said:

Wow, that's amazing.  Disney very clearly on a new strategy compared to when they released Force Awakens. I remember a lot of people being surprised at the theater count (me included) and speculating it was because they were negotiating for a higher percentage which turned a lot of theaters off.

 

My sense right now browsing through the thread is high teens, 17-19m in previews, and an IM up to the level of Incredibles 2, 9.8 or so which would put the OW in the 170-190 range.

Whaaa? The consensus as of now is low 20s

[Barnack]

35 minutes ago, MattW said:

Wow, that's amazing.  Disney very clearly on a new strategy compared to when they released Force Awakens. I remember a lot of people being surprised at the theater count (me included) and speculating it was because they were negotiating for a higher percentage which turned a lot of theaters off.

 

Maybe not a new strategy, just that they gained a lot of power over theater chain since that would normally have an harder and harder time to say no to their conditions.

[FlashMaster659]

On 7/17/2019 at 7:53 AM, FlashMaster659 said:

 

The Lion King – AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 156/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 178/203

9:00 PM - 175/203

12:00 AM - 108/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 39/78

6:30 PM - 21/63

7:00 PM - 42/78

8:45 PM - 30/60

9:15 PM - 13/78

9:45 PM - 10/63

10:15 PM - 16/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 15/55

7:30 PM - 9/167

8:00 PM - 10/114

9:00 PM - 4/79*

10:30 PM - 5/167

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 41/63

8:00 PM - 44/61

8:30 PM - 44/63

10:45 PM - 40/63

11:15 PM - 37/61

11:45 PM - 20/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 25/44

6:15 PM - 34/55

6:30 PM - 158/217

6:45 PM (1) - 22/44

6:45 PM (2) NEW - ?/?*

7:00 PM - 56/79

7:15 PM - 14/44

7:45 PM - 26/44

8:00 PM - 24/45

8:15 PM - 97/167

8:30 PM (1) - 23/45

8:30 PM (2) - 69/114

8:45 PM - 22/44

9:00 PM - 27/49

9:15 PM - 15/44

9:30 PM (1) - 13/55

9:30 PM (2) - 6/55

9:45 PM - 30/217

10:00 PM (1) - 15/48

10:00 PM (2) NEW - 2/44

10:15 PM - 8/79

10:30 PM - 18/44

11:15 PM - 0/45

11:30 PM - 18/167

11:45 PM - 2/114

 

Total

 

1738(+119)/4089 (42.5%)

 

1.4459x as many seats sold as Toy Story 4 one day before previews

 

*9:00 PM RealD 3D became a glitched sell-out so I can't add anymore seats to that show's total until it's fixed.

 

The Lion King - AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 159/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 191/203

9:00 PM - 174/203

12:00 AM - 129/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 55/78

6:30 PM - 39/63

7:00 PM - 47/78

8:45 PM - 40/60

9:15 PM - 25/78

9:45 PM - 10/63

10:15 PM - 18/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 33/55

7:30 PM - 22/167

8:00 PM - 19/114

9:00 PM - 17/79

10:30 PM - 5/167

12:00 AM NEW - 0/79

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 54/63

8:00 PM - 43/61

8:30 PM - 49/63

10:45 PM - 39/63

11:15 PM - 39/61

11:45 PM - 28/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 35/44

6:15 PM - 34/55

6:30 PM - 166/217

6:45 PM - 27/44

7:00 PM - 60/79

7:15 PM - 24/44

7:45 PM - 26/44

8:00 PM - 26/45

8:15 PM - 128/167

8:30 PM (1) - 26/45

8:30 PM (2) - 82/114

8:45 PM - 26/44

9:00 PM - 28/49

9:15 PM - 24/44

9:30 PM (1) - 16/55

9:30 PM (2) - 27/55

9:45 PM - 61/217

10:00 PM (1) - 20/48

10:00 PM (2) NEW - 11/44

10:15 PM - 21/79

10:30 PM - 18/44

11:15 PM (1) - 4/45

11:15 PM (2) NEW - 8/114

11:30 PM - 20/167

11:45 PM (1) - 2/114

11:45 PM (2) NEW - 0/45

12:00 AM (1) NEW - 2/44

12:00 AM (2) NEW - 0/49

 

Total

 

2157(+419)/4464(+375) (48.3%)

 

1.4754x as many seats sold as Toy Story 4 mid-day of previews

0.5090x as many seats sold as Avengers: Endgame mid-day of previews

Edited July 18, 2019 by FlashMaster659

[keysersoze123]

While the theater numbers sound crazy, they are secondary to screen/show count. Maxing out means they are playing more in indie theaters(museums and ilk). They are only one screen each and play only couple of shows at most. So it adds little to overall gross. Most big movies open in 4K+ theaters and that covers all the plexes plus drive ins.

[Sunny Max]

13 minutes ago, FlashMaster659 said:

 

https://twitter.com/josh_hammer/status/1151129688833765378

The Lion King – AMC Ontario Mills 30 (Thursday Night)

 

Fan Event

 

5:00 PM - 159/167

 

Dolby Cinema

 

6:00 PM - 191/203

9:00 PM - 174/203

12:00 AM - 129/203

 

3D Dine-In

 

6:00 PM - 55/78

6:30 PM - 39/63

7:00 PM - 47/78

8:45 PM - 40/60

9:15 PM - 25/78

9:45 PM - 10/63

10:15 PM - 18/78

 

RealD 3D

 

6:15 PM - 33/55

7:30 PM - 22/167

8:00 PM - 19/114

9:00 PM - 17/79

10:30 PM - 5/167

12:00 AM NEW - 0/79

 

2D Dine-In

 

7:30 PM - 54/63

8:00 PM - 43/61

8:30 PM - 49/63

10:45 PM - 39/63

11:15 PM - 39/61

11:45 PM - 28/63

 

2D

 

6:00 PM - 35/44

6:15 PM - 34/55

6:30 PM - 166/217

6:45 PM - 27/44

7:00 PM - 60/79

7:15 PM - 24/44

7:45 PM - 26/44

8:00 PM - 26/45

8:15 PM - 128/167

8:30 PM (1) - 26/45

8:30 PM (2) - 82/114

8:45 PM - 26/44

9:00 PM - 28/49

9:15 PM - 24/44

9:30 PM (1) - 16/55

9:30 PM (2) - 27/55

9:45 PM - 61/217

10:00 PM (1) - 20/48

10:00 PM (2) NEW - 11/44

10:15 PM - 21/79

10:30 PM - 18/44

11:15 PM (1) - 4/45

11:15 PM (2) NEW - 8/114

11:30 PM - 20/167

11:45 PM (1) - 2/114

11:45 PM (2) NEW - 0/45

12:00 AM (1) NEW - 2/44

12:00 AM (2) NEW - 0/49

 

Total

 

2157(+419)/4464(+375) (48.3%)

 

1.4754x as many seats sold as Toy Story 4 mid-day of previews

0.5090x as many seats sold as Avengers: Endgame mid-day of previews

that's huge ... 50% as many seats sold as AEG ...

 

[Porthos]

The Lion King Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

PREMIERE NIGHT (MID-DAY UPDATE) [11:50am - 1:05pm]

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	287	18654	27831	9177	32.97%

 

Total Sellouts Removed Since Last Night:        1

Total Showings Added Since Last Night:          1

Total Seats Added Since Last Night:               51

Total Seats Sold Since Last Night:              1139

 

Unadjusted Comps

3.4643x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu mid day of premiere.

2.9689x as many tickets sold as Aladdin mid day of premiere.

3.8462x as many tickets sold as King of the Monsters mid day of premiere.

1.6752x as many tickets sold as Toy Story 4 mid day of premiere.

 

T-0 Mid Day:

Pika      392 seats sold [0 sellouts/112 shows |   7619/10268 seats  | 2649 seats sold |  25.08% sold]

Aladdin 585 seats sold [0 sellouts/117 shows | 10762/13853 seats  | 3091 seats sold |  22.31% sold]

KotM     398 seats sold [0 sellouts/125 shows | 13097/15483 seats  | 2386 seats sold | 15.41% sold]

TS4       881 seats sold [2 sellouts/149 shows | 11387/16865 seats  | 5478 seats sold | 32.48% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

1.6659x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom mid day of premiere..

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

T-0 Mid Day:

JW2          761 seats sold [0 sellouts/147 shows |   8762/13715 seats | 4953 seats sold | 36.11% sold]

TLK (JW)   999 seats sold [0 sellouts/288 shows | 14441/22692 seats | 8251 seats sold | 36.36% sold]

TLK (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom.

[john2000]

2 minutes ago, Porthos said:

The Lion King Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report:

PREMIERE NIGHT (MID-DAY UPDATE) [11:50am - 1:05pm]

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	287	18654	27831	9177	32.97%

 

Total Sellouts Removed Since Last Night:        1

Total Showings Added Since Last Night:          1

Total Seats Added Since Last Night:               51

Total Seats Sold Since Last Night:              1139

 

Unadjusted Comps

3.4643x as many tickets sold as Detective Pikachu mid day of premiere.

2.9689x as many tickets sold as Aladdin mid day of premiere.

3.8462x as many tickets sold as King of the Monsters mid day of premiere.

1.6752x as many tickets sold as Toy Story 4 mid day of premiere.

 

T-0 Mid Day:

Pika      392 seats sold [0 sellouts/112 shows |   7619/10268 seats  | 2649 seats sold |  25.08% sold]

Aladdin 585 seats sold [0 sellouts/117 shows | 10762/13853 seats  | 3091 seats sold |  22.31% sold]

KotM     398 seats sold [0 sellouts/125 shows | 13097/15483 seats  | 2386 seats sold | 15.41% sold]

TS4       881 seats sold [2 sellouts/149 shows | 11387/16865 seats  | 5478 seats sold | 32.48% sold]

 

Adjusted Comps

1.6659x as many tickets sold as Fallen Kingdom mid day of premiere..

ADJUSTMENT NOTE: If a theater locally that is now selling tickets for reserved seating was selling them for the above movies, but as non-reserved seating for that movie, it is not counted toward the ratio of 'as many tickets sold' for the movie in question.  If a theater is brand new to the region and wasn't yet open for one of the above movies, however, it will be counted toward the ratio.  It will also be counted toward the ratio if it was playing in a different number of theaters locally.

 

T-0 Mid Day:

JW2          761 seats sold [0 sellouts/147 shows |   8762/13715 seats | 4953 seats sold | 36.11% sold]

TLK (JW)   999 seats sold [0 sellouts/288 shows | 14441/22692 seats | 8251 seats sold | 36.36% sold]

TLK (JW) is the number of tickets sold at the same theaters I had tracking info for Fallen Kingdom.

good ? (its not the final )

Edited July 18, 2019 by john2000