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[narniadis]

1 minute ago, keysersoze123 said:

Thank you. Makes better sense. as I said Charlie was too high. At least not as bad as what he had predicted for Spidey early this year.

Yes, but at least with Spidey we can always add the weird release mechanism to the number. 😄

[cdsacken]

Just now, keysersoze123 said:

Thank you. Makes better sense. as I said Charlie was too high. At least not as bad as what he had predicted for Spidey early this year.

We all let the hype get to us (me all the time!) 

 

That said ever since you added so many you have been deadly accurate. Incredible precision really from MD/OD to OW. Props to you.

[narniadis]

Off topic, but glad to see my reaction count resetting lol get tired of the "you cant react anymore" notice. 

[a2k]

7 minutes ago, danhtruong5 said:

What is the highest jump % for Sat from a animeated movie so far???

 

1 minute ago, Thanos Legion said:

Like, without size restrictions? Won’t be meaningful but off the top of my head the previous biggest Nov Fri animation, Grinch from last year, did +67% Sat from True Fri. Won’t happen here by any stretch of the imagination.

Free Birds

 

Date	Rank	Gross	% Change	Theaters	Per Theater	Total Gross	Days
Nov 1, 2013	4	$3,943,646		3,736	$1,056	$3,943,646	1
Nov 2, 2013	3	$7,249,564	+84%	3,736	$1,940	$11,193,210	2
Nov 3, 2013	3	$4,612,027	-36%	3,736	$1,234	$15,805,237	3

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Free-Birds#tab=box-office

[Curtis1986]

17 minutes ago, CJohn said:

I am shocked on how badly Frozen 2 is performing. Should have been an easy 200M OW. Won't even touch 150M OW instead. Wtf.

200 is hard to achieve. The only movie in the foreseeable future that will probably hit 200 is Avatar 2 or Black Panther 2

[Legion Again]

There were no great precedents for F2. Charlie conservative 40 is about 4% away from current Rth high end. Let’s not write the WWW here just yet 😛 

[Krissykins]

Last Christmas losing 1,000+ locations before December even starts. 
 

That’s honestly what they get. I don’t know what they were thinking opening a Christmas film so early. It’ll be making pennies by Christmas.

 

Horrendous drop theatre wise for Doctor Sleep too, yikes. Charlie’s Angels will fall off the earth next weekend. 

[keysersoze123]

@captainwondyful AT least you must be happy to note Emp/LS13 have come on board today. Strong from morning shows onwards. Already at 4293/10351 and will probably sell 7K tickets before end of day.

 

Metreon only has shows after 6PM(Theater has been closed whole week for an event until this evening) and still is at 766/1636 all PS. Pretty good I would say.

[Menor the Destroyer]

8 minutes ago, Thanos Legion said:

Like, without size restrictions? Won’t be meaningful but off the top of my head the previous biggest Nov Fri animation, Grinch from last year, did +67% Sat from True Fri. Won’t happen here by any stretch of the imagination.

Sat PS is going to be almost +50% of Fri though. So for a usual type of mega blockbuster (like TLK or I2) that might be a 60%+ jump. But I think most likely scenario here is that we just see an unusually PS heavy Saturday and more like 50% jump.

 

 

Edited November 22, 2019 by Menor

[Poseidon]

9 minutes ago, danhtruong5 said:

What is the highest jump % for Sat from a animeated movie so far???

From the big players (Opening to 75m+) outside of summer I would go with Zootopia. Had a 77% jump from true friday. 

[keysersoze123]

As I said earlier, Disney should have released this next wednesday. Definitely would have had huge 5 days + preview run. Plus school is also off and so previews would have been stronger.

[keysersoze123]

1 minute ago, Menor said:

Sat PS is going to be almost +50% of Fri though. So for a usual type of mega blockbuster (like TLK or I2) that might be a 60%+ jump. But I think most likely scenario here is that we just see an unusually PS heavy Saturday and more like 50% jump.

Problem is lots of big morning shows are almost sold out. So limits the PS to BO ratio. It will be even more frontloaded than today compared to PS. To have a bigger increase it needs stronger late shows. Not sure if that is its strength outside very big cities.

[stephanos13]

Imagine saying an OW around $130M is disappointing. Really guys?

[narniadis]

9 minutes ago, Poseidon said:

From the big players (Opening to 75m+) outside of summer I would go with Zootopia. Had a 77% jump from true friday. 

Which due to being an original film just plain doesnt qualify. 

[xiazhi]

 

13 minutes ago, Curtis1986 said:

200 is hard to achieve. The only movie in the foreseeable future that will probably hit 200 is Avatar 2 or Black Panther 2

Not even sure about these two. A5 maybe.

[narniadis]

11 minutes ago, Krissykins said:

Last Christmas losing 1,000+ locations before December even starts. 
 

That’s honestly what they get. I don’t know what they were thinking opening a Christmas film so early. It’ll be making pennies by Christmas.

 

Horrendous drop theatre wise for Doctor Sleep too, yikes. Charlie’s Angels will fall off the earth next weekend. 

Its made more than getting slaughtered by Star Wars and Jumanji back to back then dying on the 26th. 

You may not like or agree but again, dont ignore the reasons that they open these films in November. 

[a2k]

Frozen1 was on 142 after 2nd Thursday btw; 134 after the 2nd weekend.

https://www.the-numbers.com/movie/Frozen-(2013)#tab=box-office

 

 

Spoiler

Nov 27, 2013	2	$15,161,249	+29,212%	3,742	$4,052	$15,504,088	6
Nov 28, 2013	2	$11,037,812	-27%	3,742	$2,950	$26,541,900	7
Nov 29, 2013	2	$26,840,236	+143%	3,742	$7,173	$53,382,136	8
Nov 30, 2013	2	$25,343,182	-6%	3,742	$6,773	$78,725,318	9
Dec 1, 2013	1	$15,207,908	-40%	3,742	$4,064	$93,933,226	10
Dec 2, 2013	2	$2,504,648	-84%	3,742	$669	$96,437,874	11
Dec 3, 2013	2	$2,500,537	n/c	3,742	$668	$98,938,411	12
Dec 4, 2013	2	$1,831,849	-27%	3,742	$490	$100,770,260	13
Dec 5, 2013	2	$1,867,176	+2%	3,742	$499	$102,637,436	14
Dec 6, 2013	2	$6,723,820	+260%	3,742	$1,797	$109,361,256	15
Dec 7, 2013	1	$15,063,237	+124%	3,742	$4,025	$124,424,493	16
Dec 8, 2013	1	$9,829,173	-35%	3,742	$2,627	$134,253,666	17
Dec 9, 2013	1	$2,051,152	-79%	3,742	$548	$136,304,818	18
Dec 10, 2013	1	$2,463,619	+20%	3,742	$658	$138,768,437	19
Dec 11, 2013	2	$1,720,122	-30%	3,742	$460	$140,488,559	20
Dec 12, 2013	2	$1,715,514	n/c	3,742	$458	$142,204,073	21

 

We're a tough crowd to please for sure.

[narniadis]

8 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Problem is lots of big morning shows are almost sold out. So limits the PS to BO ratio. It will be even more frontloaded than today compared to PS. To have a bigger increase it needs stronger late shows. Not sure if that is its strength outside very big cities.

So much unknown.... need that gif from Inglorious Bastards with the seat wiggling lol

[jedijake]

18 minutes ago, Curtis1986 said:

200 is hard to achieve. The only movie in the foreseeable future that will probably hit 200 is Avatar 2 or Black Panther 2

You mean AFTER TROS, right?

[Nova]

14 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Problem is lots of big morning shows are almost sold out. So limits the PS to BO ratio. It will be even more frontloaded than today compared to PS. To have a bigger increase it needs stronger late shows. Not sure if that is its strength outside very big cities.

This is the problem I saw Thursday night and the problem I am seeing tonight and tomorrow too. It's something I brought up in the tracking thread too. I just didn't feel like theater chains treated this like a $100M+ opener. Its showtime account, at least locally, did not see that much of a significant increase as release date got closer. So showtimes have sold out but new showtimes were not added (again locally). What I always questioned is where the demand for the movie is going to go? Obviously there is demand for the film. It remains to be seen if people couldn't get seats for this Saturday, would they just decide to go next Saturday instead for example thus driving up sales for the second weekend. 

 

*This is all an analysis locally from the 4 theaters that I tracked for the film. 

Edited November 23, 2019 by Nova