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Weekend Thread (14 Feb - 17 Feb) - Sonic 58M/70M

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7 hours ago, JGAR4LIFE said:

Speaking of video game movies, I’m very much looking forward to the box office possibilities of Universal and Illumination’s Super Mario movie.
 

A lot of people criticize them for the stupidity and lack of plot for the Despicable Me/Minions movies but outside of some games like Paper Mario, the Mario franchise is not known for its narrative. If Detective Pikachu and Sonic are the Blade and Bryan Singer’s X-Men, I truly believe that Mario will be the Sam Raimi Spider-Man and finally the floodgates or video game movies will be opened wide and we’ll see an onslaught of adaptations in the coming years.

Warner Bros already has Mortal Kombat filming at the moment and given how hugely popular the current series is, I think that could do solid business if it's good, they've already had success with video game adaptations with Rampagem Detective Pikachu and to an extent Tomb Raider. I'd think they look at Spy Hunter or Space Invaders as potential IP. 

 

In terms of other video game movies, what's the betting someone is eyeing the likes of Crash or Spyro? I think Nintendo will be willing to license Kirby for a movie or maybe Splatoon but they'd be more reluctant with Zelda and Metroid. 

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Sonic

 

21 + 20 + 16 + 11 (-31%) = 68 (57 ow) // 68 4-day

4.25 (-61%) + 2.75 (-35%) + 2.5 (-9%) = 9.5 // 77.5 7-day

5.0 (+100%) + 10.5 (+110%) + 7.0 (-33%)  = 22.5 (-60%) // 100 10-day

 

100 + 22.5*2.5 = 156.25 (2.74x)

100 + 22.5*3.0 = 167.50 (2.94x)

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6 minutes ago, a2k said:

Sonic

 

21 + 20 + 16 + 11 (-31%) = 68 (57 ow) // 68 4-day

4.25 (-61%) + 2.75 (-35%) + 2.5 (-9%) = 9.5 // 77.5 7-day

5.0 (+100%) + 10.5 (+110%) + 7.0 (-33%)  = 22.5 (-60%) // 100 10-day

 

100 + 22.5*2.5 = 156.25 (2.74x)

100 + 22.5*3.0 = 167.50 (2.94x)

Why so weak on the legs?

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I think Sonic will hard to beat box office wise in terms of this year's CGI/live action films based on iconic characters as Peter Rabbit 2 will most likely decrease and Tom and Jerry is a bit of a wildcard at the moment even with its December release date. 

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2 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

Why so weak on the legs?

Pika did 2.65x, probably had lesser reception, more competition but Sonic Fri and Sun both are inflated.

How is 2.74-2.94x weak...especially the higher-end after an inflated ow.

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30 minutes ago, a2k said:

Sonic

 

21 + 20 + 16 + 11 (-31%) = 68 (57 ow) // 68 4-day

4.25 (-61%) + 2.75 (-35%) + 2.5 (-9%) = 9.5 // 77.5 7-day

6.25 (+155%) + 13.1 (+110%) + 8.5 (-35%)  = 27.85 (-51%) // 105.35 10-day

 

105 + 27.75*2.5 = 174.4 (3.05x)

105 + 27.75*3.0 = 188.3 (3.3x)

imo good analysis I would just go a bit higher for second weekend. Edited the quoted post just so I don't have to re-type it all for my prediction. I wouldn't count out how much the next 2 weeks being barren is going to help Sonic. Call of the Wild is a nonstarter for kids (unfortunately, cause I think it looks good) and lol Invisible Man if you've seen Chris Stuckmann's review of Playing With Fire, I don't think any of the kids in that theatre are going to go see it.

 

Monday being inflated is going to help the legs from the 3-day as well. 

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1 hour ago, RealLyre said:

would WB really give 150M to an R-rated movie again? I mean James Gunn is great but he's no Denis Villeneuve... (and BR2049 was split between WB & Sony iirc)

WB was only the distributor for BR.   Alcon & Sony split the financing (Alcon was significantly hurt by it's failure)


The last Suicide Squad made $700m+ unlike the first BR which was a low B.O. cult hit.   The GOTG movies movies did about $1.6b worth of business at the B.O. 

 

The biggest questions aren't the R rating or the director but what kind of aftertaste the first SS left on the market and is it too soon for a re-boot withe same title.

 

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5 minutes ago, DAJK said:

 

Monday being inflated is going to help the legs from the 3-day as well. 

Sunday being inflated hurts the 3-day multiplier though. Someday I will look more thoroughly into how those two factors net out with each other.

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43 minutes ago, a2k said:

Sonic

 

21 + 20 + 16 + 11 (-31%) = 68 (57 ow) // 68 4-day

4.25 (-61%) + 2.75 (-35%) + 2.5 (-9%) = 9.5 // 77.5 7-day

5.0 (+100%) + 10.5 (+110%) + 7.0 (-33%)  = 22.5 (-60%) // 100 10-day

 

100 + 22.5*2.5 = 156.25 (2.74x)

100 + 22.5*3.0 = 167.50 (2.94x)

Why on earth would Sonic just increase 100% on friday !!! I know some schools have a break next week(my kids are out in bay area). But its almost negligble. I would say at least 200% friday increase would happen. Family audience would drive its BO. Also next week releases are irrelevant and so negligible thursday impact. I could see it stay flat and drop in mid 40's next week and another week of good holds before onward releases when it will drop a bit. 

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3 minutes ago, keysersoze123 said:

Why on earth would Sonic just increase 100% on friday !!! I know some schools have a break next week(my kids are out in bay area). But its almost negligble. I would say at least 200% friday increase would happen. Family audience would drive its BO. Also next week releases are irrelevant and so negligible thursday impact. I could see it stay flat and drop in mid 40's next week and another week of good holds before onward releases when it will drop a bit. 

I used 100% on Fri and 110% on Sat due to Lego2's FSS (3rd weekend) largely

Feb 22, 2019 5 $2,192,036 +95% -50% 3,833 $572   $75,796,075 15
Feb 23, 2019 3 $4,557,178 +108% -49% 3,833 $1,189   $80,353,253 16
Feb 24, 2019 3 $2,934,267 -36% -61% 3,833 $766   $83,287,520 17

 

...but that had HTTYD3 opening while Sonic is much better placed.

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50 minutes ago, a2k said:

Sonic

 

21 + 20 + 16 + 11 (-31%) = 68 (57 ow) // 68 4-day

4.25 (-61%) + 2.75 (-35%) + 2.5 (-9%) = 9.5 // 77.5 7-day

5.0 (+100%) + 10.5 (+110%) + 7.0 (-33%)  = 22.5 (-60%) // 100 10-day

 

100 + 22.5*2.5 = 156.25 (2.74x)

100 + 22.5*3.0 = 167.50 (2.94x)

 

I'll take the over on those numbers

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1 minute ago, keysersoze123 said:

I would say at least 200% friday increase would happen. Family audience would drive its BO

This doesn’t seem at all realistic with the history of kids/family bumps on the post-Pres Friday. E.g.

5 2 The Lego Movie 2: The Second Part $2,192,036 +94.9% -50.2% 3,833 $571 $75,796,075 15
6 4 Jumanji: Welcome to the Jungle $1,346,038 +132.3% -27.9% 2,519 $534 $382,980,253 66
4 2 Peter Rabbit $2,845,620 +116.3% -30.1% 3,707 $767 $61,591,322 15
2 2 The Lego Batman Movie $4,249,572 +136.9% -42.2% 4,057 $1,047 $118,256,150 15
4 2 Kung Fu Panda 3 $2,875,390 +131.6% -25.3% 3,448 $833 $107,479,974 22
4 3 The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water $4,013,127 +108.4% -37.9% 3,680 $1,090 $113,684,961 15
1 1 The Lego Movie $7,275,739 +169.2% -43.2% 3,890 $1,870 $158,985,835 15  
9 5 Frozen $1,023,438 +125.6% -40.1% 1,891 $541 $380,727,773 92

 

I think you’re underestimating the effect of the weekday break. Thursday being just 33% bigger turns a +200% Fri into a +125% Fri.

 

 

 

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