The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Harley]

Just saw JL rotten tomatoes score, smart move by WB to delay the % release.  It'll help it this weekend but not next.

 

Wonder is doing better than I thought it would.

Edited November 17, 2017 by Harley

[TheMovieman]

16 minutes ago, Harley said:

Just saw JL rotten tomatoes score, smart move by WB to delay the % release.  It'll help it this weekend but not next.

Unless people actually enjoy the movie and disagree with the critics...

[Dementeleus]

17 minutes ago, Harley said:

Just saw JL rotten tomatoes score, smart move by WB to delay the % release.  It'll help it this weekend but not next.

 

Wonder is doing better than I thought it would.

 

The delay was RT, not Warners.

[TheMovieman]

20 minutes ago, Squadron Leader Tele said:

 

The delay was RT, not Warners.

That's what they want you to think! It's all one big conspiracy, man!

[Brinatico]

The Miami area is selling very well tonite.. dont fit the deadline predictions 

[TalismanRing]

http://deadline.com/2017/11/justice-league-box-office-weekend-winner-wonder-the-star-1202210465/

 

Quote

Deadline sources inform us that Warner Bros./DC’s Justice League is looking at an estimated $11M-$12M Thursday night from previews starting at 6PM. On the low end, that’s what Wonder Woman minted before earning a $38.2M Friday ($103.3M opening). Some tell us it would be no surprise if the Zack Snyder film hits $13M. These figures do not come from Warner Bros. Based on these estimates, the notion is that Justice League could fly to a $110M-$115M start and a possible $37M-$40M Friday. 

 

I think it would need $13m to get to $105m and $14m to do $110m+

[TwoMisfits]

So, who's not selling JL?  If NYC is selling it, DC/MD/VA is selling it, Miami is selling it...is Canada totally dropping the ball?:)  I mean, all the previous sites outsold Thor 3, and Thor 3 opened to $14.5M, so someone has to be underselling it:)...

 

I'm reminded of the South Park song now:)...

 

Edit: Oh, and other local added a 7th showing...so both sold more tickets to start, and then even more tickets to end, than Thor 3 2 weeks ago:)...so, maybe I'm just in JL country:)...

Edited November 17, 2017 by TwoMisfits

[Hiccup23]

Sounds like it is right where I expected it 13-14M....quote me on that shit (look back a few pages)

[Ohana]

5 minutes ago, TalismanRing said:

http://deadline.com/2017/11/justice-league-box-office-weekend-winner-wonder-the-star-1202210465/

 

 

I think it would need $13m to get to $105m and $14m to do $110m+

how come?

WW did 103M out of 11M
13M should get it closer to 110M

[WrathOfHan]

1 minute ago, Ohana said:

how come?

WW did 103M out of 11M
13M should get it closer to 110M

WW was a summer release when a good portion of kids were on break.

[TalismanRing]

Just now, Ohana said:

how come?

WW did 103M out of 11M
13M should get it closer to 110M

WW had great WOM with excellent reviews pushing it.  It had by far the best internal multiplier for a DC film in ages.

 

Thor 3 just had a 8.46 multiplier off excellent reviews 

[Barnack]

4 minutes ago, Ohana said:

how come?

WW did 103M out of 11M
13M should get it closer to 110M

Wonder Woman had a much better multiplier than the average superheroes movies (specially DC ones) and could be misleading to use it has a reference. SS and BvS had around 33% less, 

 

WW = nearly 10 internal multiplier

BvS & SS = between 6 and 6.7

Edited November 17, 2017 by Barnack

[Rumpot]

4 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

So, who's not selling JL?  If NYC is selling it, DC/MD/VA is selling it, Miami is selling it...is Canada totally dropping the ball?:)  I mean, all the previous sites outsold Thor 3, and Thor 3 opened to $14.5M, so someone has to be underselling it:)...

 

I'm reminded of the South Park song now:)...

That's what I was thinking too.  Not sure where the weakness is.   Either way, I'm not in the doom and.gloom camp as I enjoyed the movie

[TalismanRing]

6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

So, who's not selling JL?  If NYC is selling it, DC/MD/VA is selling it, Miami is selling it...is Canada totally dropping the ball?:)  I mean, all the previous sites outsold Thor 3, and Thor 3 opened to $14.5M, so someone has to be underselling it:)...

 

I'm reminded of the South Park song now:)...

The Fandango meter had it running behind Thor 3 all day by about 20%
 

 

 

[Lordmandeep]

10 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

So, who's not selling JL?  If NYC is selling it, DC/MD/VA is selling it, Miami is selling it...is Canada totally dropping the ball?:)  I mean, all the previous sites outsold Thor 3, and Thor 3 opened to $14.5M, so someone has to be underselling it:)...

 

I'm reminded of the South Park song now:)...

 

Edit: Oh, and other local added a 7th showing...so both sold more tickets to start, and then even more tickets to end, than Thor 3 2 weeks ago:)...so, maybe I'm just in JL country:)...

 

 

Frankly, the previews here like for a Marvel opener here in Toronto

[RRA]

1 hour ago, Harley said:

Just saw JL rotten tomatoes score, smart move by WB to delay the % release.  It'll help it this weekend but not next.

 

Wonder is doing better than I thought it would.

My prediction (and take heed that I plus Brainiac earlier were both sure that this would out-open BVS, with Brainiac predicting at most a potential $190 million):

 

JL's ow will make people quabble about why it didn't do better than BVS (in spite of WW) or why it didn't out-open SS (which is possible), point is the thinkpiece cottage industry will have a field day with speculation about what went wrong and what DCEU needs to do. In short, OK OW but not as big as people expected/wanted especially in context of other team-up spandex openers. In short 2016 all over again, which means WB may or may not react/overreact to this.

 

MEANWHILE it has good legs which surprises people (think SS) and maybe help restore (alongside WW) with long term confidence in the brand? Of course (just my opinion) the reactions between the two are a difference between two competitors in a cooking contest. One wins a medal for making a delicious meal, the other wins a medal for not burning the house down. 

[Rumpot]

1 hour ago, TalismanRing said:

The Fandango meter had it running behind Thor 3 all day by about 20%
 

 

 

Yeah, I just wonder where geographically the weakness was

[MikeQ]

Edit: Wrong thread.

Edited November 17, 2017 by MikeQ

[ZeeSoh]

HDD, Geostorm, Boo 2 and Jigsaw with huge theatre drops. Thor holds on to all its theatres

 

> NEW RELEASES
2	-	Justice League	Warner Bros.	4,051	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
5	-	Wonder	Lionsgate	3,096	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
7	-	The Star	Sony / Columbia	2,837	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
42	-	Roman J. Israel, Esq.	Sony / Columbia	4	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
43	-	The Crime of Monsieur Lange (2017 re-release)	Rialto	2	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
45	-	Sweet Virginia	IFC	1	-	-	-	-	-	-	1
> EXPANDING
4	4	Murder on the Orient Express (2017)	Fox	3,354	+13	+0.4%	-	-	-	-	2
22	43	Lady Bird	A24	238	+201	+543.2%	-	-	-	-	3
32	49	Novitiate	Sony Classics	61	+32	+110.3%	-	-	-	-	4
33	46	Last Flag Flying	Lionsgate	59	+27	+84.4%	-	-	-	-	3
34	78	Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri	Fox Searchlight	53	+49	+1,225.0%	-	-	-	-	2
> NO CHANGE
1	1	Thor: Ragnarok	Buena Vista	4,080	-	-	-	-	-	-	3
3	3	Daddy's Home 2	Paramount	3,575	-	-	-	-	-	-	2
44	105	Il Boom (2017 re-release)	Rialto	1	-	-	-	-	-	-	21
> DECLINING
6	2	A Bad Moms Christmas	STX Entertainment	2,948	-639	-17.8%	-	-	-	-	3
8	5	Jigsaw	Lionsgate	1,201	-1,450	-54.7%	-	-	-	-	4
9	6	Tyler Perry's Boo 2! A Madea Halloween	Lionsgate	718	-1,182	-62.2%	-	-	-	-	5
10	12	Let there be Light	Atlas Distribution	554	-220	-28.4%	-	-	-	-	4
11	7	Geostorm	Warner Bros.	502	-1,183	-70.2%	-	-	-	-	5
12	11	Blade Runner 2049	Warner Bros.	466	-397	-46.0%	-	-	-	-	7
13	13	The LEGO Ninjago Movie	Warner Bros.	455	-316	-41.0%	-	-	-	-	9
14	8	Happy Death Day	Universal	430	-1,134	-72.5%	-	-	-	-	6
15	10	Only The Brave	Sony / Columbia	363	-844	-69.9%	-	-	-	-	5
16	18	My Little Pony: The Movie	Lionsgate	299	-293	-49.5%	-	-	-	-	7
17	17	Marshall	Open Road Films	275	-326	-54.2%	-	-	-	-	6
18	20	Kingsman: The Golden Circle	Fox	271	-150	-35.6%	-	-	-	-	9
19	9	Thank You for Your Service (2017)	Universal	269	-1,079	-80.0%	-	-	-	-	4
20	15	Victoria and Abdul	Focus Features	258	-379	-59.5%	-	-	-	-	9
21	14	The Foreigner	STX Entertainment	250

[WrathOfHan]

Theater update:

Spoiler

 

JL:

 

10:00: 45/78 

11:00 3D: 7/78 

12:00: 4/78

1:00: 22/124 

2:00 3D: 4/113 

3:00: 15/78 

3:30: 0/78

4:00: 10/124 

5:00 3D: 10/113

5:30 3D: 2/78

6:00 3D: 0/78

7:00: 92/124

8:00 3D: 11/113 

8:30 3D: 0/78

9:00 3D: 0/78

9:30: 29/78

9:45: 0/63

10:00: 50/124 

11:00 3D: 6/113 

 

Wonder:

 

10:30: 46/78

1:15: 14/78

4:00: 14/78

6:45: 44/78

9:30: 0/78

 

OE:

 

10:40: 12/63

1:25: 11/63

3:25: 5/78

4:10: 7/63

6:10: 2/78

7:00: 4/63

9:00: 0/78

 

DH2:

 

11:30: 3/67

12:45: 2/78

2:00: 0/67

4:30: 3/67

6:30: 4/78

7:00: 2/67

9:30: 0/67

 

The Star:

 

9:50: 3/78

1:00: 6/78

3:15: 0/78

5:30: 3/78

7:45: 5/78

10:00: 0/78

 

Thor:

 

10:30: 2/69

1:30 3D: 3/69

2:15 3D: 2/78

4:30: 6/69

7:30 3D: 4/69

10:30: 0/69

 

Bad Moms:

 

10:05: 4/60

12:40: 0/60

3:10: 0/60

5:40: 0/60

8:10: 4/60

10:40: 0/60

 

Madea:

 

12:55: 2/78

 

 

JL: 307/1,791 (Up 56)

Wonder: 118/390 (Up 18)

OE: 41/486 (Up 4)

The Star: 17/468 (Up 7)

Thor: 17/423 (Up 11)

DH2: 14/491 (Up 2)

Bad Moms: 8/360 (Up 4)

Madea: 2/78

 

JL is 75% of Thor (translates to 92M). Filtering it down to showings before 7, it's even worse at 52% of Thor (63.8M) 

Wonder is at 115% of OE (33M) and 325% of DH2 (96.5M ) . It's  only made movement in the morning and main evening shows but gained more tickets than DH2 did last week (18 vs 10). OE by comparison gained 26 tickets. Walkups in the afternoon should be very strong.

The Star is 60% of Ninjago (12.2M) and 75% of MLP (6.7M).