The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[katnisscinnaplex]

22 hours ago, katnisscinnaplex said:

 

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales*	% Sold
T-10	No Time to Die (Wed)	Jacksonville	3	3	1,046	48	10	4.59%
		Phoenix	1	1	410	7	3	1.71%
		Raleigh	1	1	151	67	4	44.37%
	No Time to Die (Wed) Total		5	5	1,607	122	17	7.59%
T-11	No Time to Die	Jacksonville	7	59	10,119	163	13	1.61%
		Phoenix	6	31	5,132	125	14	2.44%
		Raleigh	7	30	3,725	182	18	4.89%
	No Time to Die Total		20	120	18,976	470	45	2.48%
T-4	Venom 2	Jacksonville	6	69	10,781	399	89	3.70%
		Phoenix	6	57	9,649	548	157	5.68%
		Raleigh	7	41	5,139	366	107	7.12%
	Venom 2 Total		19	167	25,569	1,313	353	5.14%

*New sales are since Friday morning

 

Venom comps

TSS - 2.56x (10.49m)

F9 - 1.058x (7.51m)

SC - .84x (7.39m)

Average - 8.47m

 

No Time to Die comps

F9 - .631x (4.48m)

TSS - 1.6x (6.55m)

Average - 5.52m

Average incl Wed - 6.95m

Day	Movie	Area	Theaters	Shows	Total Seats	Total Sold	New Sales	% Sold
T-10	No Time to Die	Jacksonville	7	59	10,119	162	-1	1.60%
		Phoenix	6	31	5,132	124	-1	2.42%
		Raleigh	7	30	3,725	201	19	5.40%
	No Time to Die Total		20	120	18,976	487	17	2.57%
T-3	Addams Family 2	Jacksonville	6	18	3,102	15	15	0.48%
		Phoenix	5	11	1,850	15	15	0.81%
		Raleigh	7	19	1,681	9	9	0.54%
	Addams Family 2 Total		18	48	6,633	39	39	0.59%
	Venom 2	Jacksonville	6	69	10,781	497	98	4.61%
		Phoenix	6	57	9,649	641	93	6.64%
		Raleigh	7	41	5,139	458	92	8.91%
	Venom 2 Total		19	167	25,569	1,596	283	6.24%
T-4	Many Saints	Jacksonville	7	28	3,375	60	60	1.78%
		Phoenix	6	16	2,098	64	64	3.05%
		Raleigh	6	23	2,949	73	73	2.48%
	Many Saints Total		19	67	8,422	197	197	2.34%
T-9	No Time to Die (Wed)	Jacksonville	3	3	1,046	54	6	5.16%
		Phoenix	1	1	410	8	1	1.95%
		Raleigh	1	1	151	77	10	50.99%
	No Time to Die (Wed) Total		5	5	1,607	139	17	8.65%

 

Added the other new releases for this week.  

 

Addams Family 2 T-3 comps

Boss Baby 2 - .39x (511k)

Peter Rabbit 2 - .45x (403k)

 

Many Saints T-4 comps (Friday)

Cry Macho - 6.35x (10.17m)

Candyman - 1.55x (4.65m)

 

Venom 2 T-3 comps

TSS - 2.59x (10.61m)

F9 - 1.1x (7.826m)

SC - .88x (7.73m)

 

Average - 8.72m

 

No Time to Die T-10 comps

F9 - .6x (4.28m)

TSS - 1.61x (6.61m)

 

Average - 5.45m

Average incl Wed - 7m

[Porthos]

2 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

Venom 2 not having the first day fan rush of an MCU/DCU movie was extremely predictable and was noted by many in this topic! It was clearly going to be more like an F9 performer. 

 

I mean, sure, it's been something I've been noting all week.  But Venom 2 locally doing 73% more than Shang-Chi did on it's Sunday of release week made me want to pull a Cyber Ninja on my own data just because of it being that backloaded.  

[Cmasterclay]

No joke: Venom 2 is selling better here in the three South Florida theaters I track than any movie since the restart, including F9 which usually does better than any franchise here. It might not be the hottest ticket in the traditional NY/LA markets, but in the more mid-tier markets it is cleaning up.

[TwoMisfits]

17 minutes ago, Cmasterclay said:

No joke: Venom 2 is selling better here in the three South Florida theaters I track than any movie since the restart, including F9 which usually does better than any franchise here. It might not be the hottest ticket in the traditional NY/LA markets, but in the more mid-tier markets it is cleaning up.

 

I think it's cleaning up in more diverse markets - the 1st one cleaned up in the non-Caucasian market.  Coupled with also cleaning up in the under 50 market and under 25 markets (and skewing male), and it's hitting the current active movie goer market squarely.  I said Venom 1's demo was very close to FF9's demo, so Venom 2 should clean up in a similar way...

 

 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/venom-a-dramatically-diverse-audience-makes-a-record-october-opening-1150068/

 

It's why I'm a broken record on Venom 2 OW over Bond OW for over a month:)...Bond hits a lot of the "not going" market - Venom doesn't...we'll see if Bond can break the "non goers" out of their rut...

Edited September 27, 2021 by TwoMisfits

[Madhuvan]

I was saying from beginning Venom 2 is gonna do great. Good to be correct for once. 

[Cmasterclay]

6 minutes ago, TwoMisfits said:

 

I think it's cleaning up in more diverse markets - the 1st one cleaned up in the non-Caucasian market.  Coupled with also cleaning up in the under 50 market and under 25 markets (and skewing male), and it's hitting the current active movie goer market squarely.  I said Venom 1's demo was very close to FF9's demo, so Venom 2 should clean up in a similar way...

 

 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-news/venom-a-dramatically-diverse-audience-makes-a-record-october-opening-1150068/

 

It's why I'm a broken record on Venom 2 OW over Bond OW for over a month:)...Bond hits a lot of the "not going" market - Venom doesn't...we'll see if Bond can break the "non goers" out of their rut...

I didn't realize Venom's audience was so diverse! But that makes it make total sense with the audience here in South Florida and why Fast series does so well.

[keysersoze123]

As I kept saying for a while dont compare MCU movies with everything. I see same issue for Bond. Comparing it to SC or BW is ridiculous. Real action will happen only in the final week and its Previews to OW multi will be better than SH movies. I am expecting both Venom 2 and Bond to have strong OW. 

[WrathOfHan]

As @EmpireCity forewarned, I'm starting to notice showtimes getting cut at some theaters. The AMC I track just canceled all showings before 4PM this weekend and hasn't reallocated tickets to later showings.

[titanic2187]

If Venom 2 became a breakout, then TSS is really a bomb in every way since both coming off from the critically panned predecessor. 

[Cooper Legion]

6 hours ago, Cmasterclay said:

Venom 2 not having the first day fan rush of an MCU/DCU movie was extremely predictable and was noted by many in this topic! It was clearly going to be more like an F9 performer. 

Very shallow take when:

nobody was using the BW comps

TSS comps pointed to a much higher number than F9 comps, because tss was much more backloaded than F9

SC comps pointed to a pretty similar number as SC comps, because the MCU SC had a pretty similarly shaped PS run as an “F9 performer”

V2 is not acting like an F9, but gaining on it substantially   

 

There’s no need to try to make this seem obvious or inevitable post hoc, because it wasn’t. Sometimes we get genuine surprises, otherwise this whole enterprise would be rather dull.

[keysersoze123]

45 minutes ago, titanic2187 said:

If Venom 2 became a breakout, then TSS is really a bomb in every way since both coming off from the critically panned predecessor. 

There are multiple factors in plays.  Retarded decision on part of AT&T to blindly put everything on free in HBO Max irrespective of theater status. 2nd is this is not a sequel but a "soft reboot". Previous movie did have Will Smith. I dont think any of the actors in this movie had the star power. Plus trailers for previous movie had Batman, Joker etc. Did this movie had any of the big names in DCEU to evoke interest?

 

[DAJK]

Venom 2 has overtaken NTTD in presales in Canada as of yesterday.

Edited September 27, 2021 by DAJK

[TalismanRing]

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Previews	Start
Bond (-1 week)	23/1154	(5:45pm)								6:00 PM
Venom 2 (-1 week)	67/2766	(8pm)	73/2766	(8pm)	80/2766	(6pm)	88/2766	(9pm)		4:00 PM
Venom 2	131/2766	(5:45pm)								4:00 PM
Shang-Chi (-1 week)	78/1402	(4pm)	112/1402	(8pm)	116/1402	(6pm)	125/1402	(6:45pm)		6:00 PM
Shang-Chi	190/1402	(5pm)	234/1402	(5pm)	331/1402	(5pm)	511/1402	(5pm)	$8.8m	6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week)	104/2766	(9am)	172/2766	(4:30pm)			217/3536	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Joker	328/3536	(4:20pm)	399/3536	(4pm)	542/3536	(4pm)	760/3741	(3:45pm)	$13.3m	4:00 PM
Shazam!					129/2229	(Afternoon)	187/2229	(3:30pm)	$5.9m	4:00 PM
X-Men: DP			103/942	(4pm)	209/942	(3:15pm)	272/942	(3:45pm)	$5m	6:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw	60/1543	(5:20pm)			181/1543	(4pm)			$5.8m	7:00 PM
Birds Of Prey	71/1844	(5pm)	84/1844	(7:30pm)	106/1844	(7:45pm)	166/1844	(5pm)	$4m	6:00 PM
Black Widow	239/3584	(5pm)			326/3584	(5pm)	498/3584	(4pm)	$13.2m	5:00 PM
The Suicide Squad	52/1242	(6pm)	58/1242	(6pm)	79/1242	(6pm)	153/1242	(6:15pm)	$4.2m	7:00 PM

 

 

Venom 2 COMPS:

 

SC:  $6.07m

BW:  $7.23m

Joker:  $5.31m

H&S: $12.66m

BOP: $7.38m

TSS:  $10.58m

IT 2: $9.35m

Zombieland 2: $7.32m
 

[Inceptionzq]

On 9/24/2021 at 4:00 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Venom 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

212

2151

9.86%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

148

2637

5.61%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
997	91	25495	3.91%	15	137

 

AMCs sold	648
Cinemarks sold	184
Regals sold	89
Harkins sold	76

 

Shang-Chi comp: 6.56M

Black Widow comp: 5.31M

Venom 2 Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

332

2151

15.43%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

196

2637

7.43%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 3 DAYS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1521	524	25599	5.94%	15	139

 

Showings added: 2

Seats added: 104

 

AMCs sold	943
Cinemarks sold	292
Regals sold	158
Harkins sold	128

 

Shang-Chi comp: 7.48M

Black Widow comp: 6.44M

 

Shang-Chi's sales the past 3 days at this point were 452, so a good amount ahead for Venom

[Inceptionzq]

On 9/24/2021 at 4:14 PM, Inceptionzq said:

Venom 2 Megaplex

 

T-6 days Thursday: 660(+43)/22088 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 4.49M

Black Widow comp: 2.88M

 

T-7 days Friday: 623(+63)/36526 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 13.85M

Black Widow comp: 6.95M

Venom 2 Megaplex

 

T-3 days Thursday: 1049(+389)/22088 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 5.12M

Black Widow comp: 3.66M

 

T-4 days Friday: 1053(+450)/47808 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 15.05M

Black Widow comp: 8.42M

[Inceptionzq]

On 9/24/2021 at 4:32 PM, Inceptionzq said:

No Time to Die Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

96

1690

5.68%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

125

1610

7.76%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST DAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
435	30	16853	2.58%	15	97

 

AMCs sold	333
Cinemarks sold	26
Regals sold	75
Harkins	1

 

Wednesday:

Total

39

1429

 

Suicide Squad comp: 6.28M

Fast 9 comp: 5.97M

No Time to Die Thursday Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

103

1690

6.09%

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

128

1610

7.95%

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD PAST 3 DAYS	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
508	73	16853	3.01%	15	97

 

AMCs sold	380
Cinemarks sold	34
Regals sold	90
Harkins	4

 

Wednesday:

Total

91

1429

 

Suicide Squad comp: 6.59M

Fast 9 comp: 5.96M

[Inceptionzq]

On 9/24/2021 at 4:46 PM, Inceptionzq said:

No Time to Die Megaplex

 

T-12 days Wednesday: 197(+15)/1603 in 3 theaters

 

T-13 days Thursday: 533(+23)/18906 in 14 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 6.74M

 

T-14 days Friday: 797(+35)/36788 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 34.59M

 

No Black Widow comp

No Time to Die Megaplex

 

T-9 days Wednesday: 255(+58)/2115(+512) in 4 theaters

 

T-10 days Thursday: 619(+86)/20170(+1264) in 14 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 6.14M

Black Widow comp: 3.49M

 

T-11 days Friday: 999(+202)/36788 in 15 theaters

 

Shang-Chi comp: 34.70M

Black Widow comp: 16.16M

 

Doing extremely well here. Didn't expect it to do this well, so I guess Bond is more popular here than I thought.

Edited September 28, 2021 by Inceptionzq

[John Marston]

Venom ahead of No Time to Die? Embarrassing 

[Eric Quinn]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

Venom ahead of No Time to Die? Embarrassing 

I know right? How on Earth could a movie coming out in 3 days sell more tickets than a movie coming out in 10 days? The world has gone mad!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[grey ghost]

5 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

If Venom 2 became a breakout, then TSS is really a bomb in every way since both coming off from the critically panned predecessor. 

 

I think audiences liked Venom 1 way more than the first Suicide Squad.

 

Plus TSS was released for free on HBO.