The Box Office Buzz and Tracking Thread: Electric Boogaloo

[Porthos]

Frozen 2 Greater Sacramento Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 days and counting

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats left	Total Seats	Seats Sold	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	124	13972	16792	2820	16.79%

 

Total Showings Added Today	2*
Total Seats Added Today	n/a
Total Seats Sold Today	294

* Both showings added today were from non-reserved seating theaters.

 

T-4 Adjusted Comp

	%		Sold T-4	Total Sold		Sellouts / Shows	Seats Left / Total Seats	Perct Sold		Comp
Aladdin	186.53		128	1455		0/81	9934/11389	12.78%		13.06m
TS4	97.52		287	2783		0/92	9682/12465	22.33%		11.70m
TLK	52.96		490	5125		0/227	18239/23364	21.94%		12.18m
Frozen 2 (adj)	n/a		290	2714		0/124	11750/14464	18.76%		n/a

PRE-SALES NOTE: Aladdin and The Lion King both had 25 days of pre-sales and Toy Story 4 had 24 days of pre-sales.  In comparison Frozen 2 had 18 days of pre-sales. 

ADJUSTMENT NOTE:  Frozen 2 (adj) is the ticket data at the same theaters I had tracking info for all of the movies in that stat block.

[FlashMaster659]

Frozen II Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-4 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	Perct Sold
TOTALS	0	126	2771	31230	28459	8.87%

 

Total Seats Removed Today: 204

Total Seats Sold Today: 271

[charlie Jatinder]

5 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Frozen 2 Update

 

AMC Prev -  overall 1717 shows 54119/340079
Cin Prev - overall 2436 shows 55325/387777

 

AMC OD - overall 4023 shows 92733/825047 

CIN OD - overall 4688 shows 99727/782539

 

AMC D2 overall 4541 shows 133216/895023
CIN D2 - overall 4716 shows 120151/781216

 

AMC D3 - overall 4119 shows 74372/838479
CIN D3 - overall 4691 shows 68617/782461

That goes as 

Previews: $4mn

Friday: $6.5mn 

Saturday: $8.5mn (Holy Shit)

Sunday: $5mn

 

That's $25mn Approx sales, with most crucial weeks to come and going by Sunday overall sales may be $30mn plus. Going by experience, I say Previews go to $13mn from here. I don't see Friday missing $45mn and followed by a crazy Saturday of $60-65mn and a huge Sunday of $50mn plus.

 

This is going for the animation record weekend folks. TLK seems safe for now mostly due to previews, FSS gonna fall.

[StarWarsMemer]

When did Captain Marvel's presumes start relative to its release? Has anyone tracked any $100M+ openers from 2018-2019 that had its presales start over a month prior to release other than Captain Marvel?

[Nova]

On 11/14/2019 at 7:32 AM, Nova said:

Frozen 2   7 days from previews 

 

AMCa: 

Regular: 142/142 

3D: 31/142 

 

AMCb: 

Regular: 109/142 ; 37/142  

3D: 57/142 ; 6/142 

 

United Artists: 

Regular: 112/182 ; 68/102 ; 24/182 ; 15/102 

3D: 4/84 ; 0/84 

 

Cinemark: 

Regular: 68/108 ; 57/95 ; 73/108 ; 0/95 ; 2/108 

3D: 32/100 ; 0/100 

XD: 40/132 ; 10/132 ; 8/132 

 

No new showtimes have been added. 75 additional seats have been sold. 

 

Breakdown as follows

Totals: 895/2,806 or 31.8%

Regular: 707/1616 or 43.7%

3D: 130/794 or 16.3%

XD: 58/396 or 14.6% 

Frozen 2 Monday before release 

 

AMCa: 

Regular 142/142 ; 

3D: 46/142

 

AMCb: 

Regular: 118/142 ; 62/142 

3D: 86/142 ; 11/142 

 

Cinemark: 

Regular: 71/108 ; 65/95 ; 76/108 ; 16/95 ; 0/78 ; 4/108 ; 0/78 

3D: 36/100 ; 0/100 

XD: 73/132 ; 19/32 ; 8/132 

 

UA: 

Regular: 130/182 ; 85/102 ; 30/182 ; 18/102 

3D: 10/84 ; 2/84 

 

Two new showtimes were added to Cinemark for a total of 156 new seats. Thursday's update should see a good increase in new seats as I fully expect the AMC locations to add more for Thursday night. AMCa typically adds new showtimes either Tuesday night or Wednesday night before release. As I mentioned earlier, Saturday is bonkers at AMCa at the moment. I will take a look to see how Sunday is doing at that particular theater. I wish I tracked Incredibles 2 or Lion king to see where these numbers stand but regardless these are some strong numbers for previews regardless of the type of film it is. 

 

A total of 213 seats have been sold since last Thursday. 

 

Breakdown: 

Total: 1,108/2,962 or 37.4% 

Regular: 817/ 1,772 or 46.1%

3D: 191/ 794 or 24%

XD: 100/ 396  25.2% 

Edited November 18, 2019 by Nova

[Jayhawk the Hutt]

On 10/28/2019 at 9:51 AM, Jayhawk said:

Spoiler

 

TROS 10/28 Update #3 (Last Update 10/24)

Spoiler

 

Day	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Avg, Ticket Price	Gross	% of Seats Sold	(+) Previous Tickets	(+) Previous Gross
Thursday	1659	2808	$16.94	$29,576.00	59.08%	(+) 37	(+) $645
Friday	1894	5117	$14.62	$28,655.25	37.01%	(+) 106	(+) $1,499.50
Saturday	1760	5117	$14.62	$25,574.25	34.40%	(+) 164	(+) $2,574.75
Sunday	677	4895	$14.53	$9,635.75	13.83%	(+) 122	(+) $1,712.25
Total	5990	17937	$15.60	$93,441.25	33.39%	(+) 429	(+) $6,432

 

This was over 4 days so definitely slowing down but still very solid sales, the post-preview sales trend keeps improving,

 

 

 

TROS 11/18 Update #4 (Last Update 10/28)

Day	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Avg, Ticket Price	Gross	% of Seats Sold	(+) Previous Tickets	(+) Previous Gross
Thursday	1769	2808	$16.94	$31,394.25	63.00%	(+) 110	(+) $1,818.25
Friday	2124	5117	$14.62	$31,958.50	41.51%	(+) 230	(+) $3,303.25
Saturday	1984	5117	$14.62	$28,914.00	38.77%	(+) 224	(+) $3,339.25
Sunday	979	4895	$14.53	$13,899.50	20.00%	(+) 302	(+) $4,263.75
Total	6856	17937	$15.49	$106,166.25	38.22%	(+) 866	(+) $12,724.50

 

This is 3 weeks worth of sales here but the trends are pretty clear, even if sales have slowed down somewhat. Still, I think the into weekend sales are very, very promising, with even Sunday is showing real strength.

Edited November 18, 2019 by Jayhawk

[FlashMaster659]

Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker Inland Empire Area Premiere Night Seat Report: T-32 Days

 

	Sellouts	Showings	Seats Sold	Total Seats	Seats Left	Perct Sold
TOTALS	1	256	12822	53600	40778	23.92%

 

Total Seats Sold Today: 67

[keysersoze123]

8 hours ago, Jedi Jat said:

That goes as 

Previews: $4mn

Friday: $6.5mn 

Saturday: $8.5mn (Holy Shit)

Sunday: $5mn

 

That's $25mn Approx sales, with most crucial weeks to come and going by Sunday overall sales may be $30mn plus. Going by experience, I say Previews go to $13mn from here. I don't see Friday missing $45mn and followed by a crazy Saturday of $60-65mn and a huge Sunday of $50mn plus.

 

This is going for the animation record weekend folks. TLK seems safe for now mostly due to previews, FSS gonna fall.

I would be careful extrapolating ticket prices for F2. For saturday AMC sales are 38% pre-noon shows. CIN is like 34%. Average ticket price at that hour is like 6 bucks !!! So overall Average price for sat/sun would be much lower than friday and it will be dominated by kids tickets.

 

While numbers are great its still more skewed towards CIN than normal. Empire numbers have improved(671/1810) but still well below blockbuster standards. lincoln square numbers are very low as well. So NYC overall is still under performing.

 

I won’t go above 10m previews/150m for now. But things could still change. For now I want to see AMC show count go up dramatically. its at 1721 which is around half of Joker !!!

[keysersoze123]

Knives Out(T-8)

AMC - 3868/66921(436 shows)
CIN - 940/63600 (482 shows)

 

Other day someone asked me about Knives out. PS is tiny as there is still more than a week to go. I will update this this weekend and hope it breaks out like ford did. for now its PS is worse than Ford.

 

[TalismanRing]

NYC Local

 

Full chart behind cut

Spoiler

 

 

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Previews	Preview Start
Shazam!					129/2229	(Afternoon)	187/2229	(3:30pm)	$5.9m	4:00 PM
Avengers: Endgame	3948/4,736	(12am)			4,853/5493	(9pm)			$60m	6:00 PM
Aladdin			98/1242	(12pm)					$7m	6:00 PM
Godzilla 2					135/1915	(7:45pm)	204/2150	(3:30pm)	$6.3m	4:00 PM
X-Men: DP			103/942	(4pm)	209/942	(3:15pm)	272/942	(3:45pm)	$5m	6:00 PM
SLOP 2			38/771	(4pm)	43/771	(3:15pm)			$2.3m	6:00 PM
Toy Story 4			165/2049	(4pm)	233/2049	(7:40pm)			$12m	6:00 PM
SM:FFH	142/922								$2.8m	Midnights Only
The Lion King	236/3228	(6:30pm)	294/3228	(6:20pm)	444/3228	(4:30pm)	557/3228	(4:30pm)	$23m	6:00 PM
OUATIH			117/1179	(2:15pm)	159/1179	(4pm)	335/1179	(4:20pm)	$5.8m	4:00 PM
Hobbs & Shaw	60/1543	(5:20pm)			181/1543	(4pm)			$5.8m	7:00 PM
IT Part 2	147/2764	(9am)			239/2764	(7:10pm)			$10.5m	5:00 PM
Hustlers			45/512	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	$2.5m	6:00 PM
Downton Abbey (eps)			37/301	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	$2.2m	7:00 PM
Ad Astra			26/602	(4:30pm)	26/602	(4:30pm)	41/602	(4:30pm)	$1.5m	6:00 PM
Downton Abbey			31/512	(4:30pm)	39/512	(4:30pm)	52/1015	(4:30pm)	$2.1m	7:00 PM
Rambo			29/302	(4:30pm)	53/1242	(4:30pm)	58/1242	(4:30pm)	$1.3m	6:00 PM
Abominable			30/255	(4:30pm)		(4:30pm)	73/1969	(4:30pm)	$.65m	6:00 PM
Joker (-1 week)	104/2766	(9am)	172/2766	(4:30pm)			217/3536	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Joker	328/3536	(4:20pm)	399/3536	(4pm)	542/3536	(4pm)	760/3741	(3:45pm)	$13.3m	4:00 PM
Gemini Man			38/1004	(4pm)	38/1004	(4pm)	78/1004	[6:30pm]	$1.55m	7:00 PM
Adams Family		(4pm)	53/1373	(4pm)	49/1373	(4pm)			$1.25m	4:00 PM
Maleficent 2	39/1154	(4pm)	42/1154	(4pm)	33/834	(4pm)	96/1425	[6pm]	$2.3m	7:00 PM
Zombieland 2	51/1114	(4pm)	53/1114	(4pm)	67/1177	(4pm)	95/1478	[6pm]	$2.85m	7:00 PM
Black & Blue			19/410	(4pm)			20/410	(4pm)	$.68m	7:00 PM
Countdown			15/511	(4pm)			19/411	(4pm)	$.52m	7:00 PM
Terminator: DF	71/1242	(4pm)	71/1242	(4pm)	76/1242	(5:30pm)	113/1242	(4pm)	$2.35m	7:00 PM
Harriet	25/512	(4pm)	25/512	(4pm)	27/512	(5:30pm)	29/512	(4pm)	$.6m	7:00 PM
Midway	20/512	(4pm)	23/512	(4pm)	22/512	(4:30pm)	27/512	(5pm)	$.925m	7:00 PM
Dr Sleep	23/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4pm)	28/510	(4:30pm)	53/512	(5pm)	$1.5m	6:00 PM
Last Christmas	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4pm)	12/496	(4:30pm)	16/496	(5pm)	$.575m	7:00 PM
Playing With Fire	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4pm)	15/654	(4:30pm)	18/654	(4pm)		4:00 PM
Ford v Ferrari	50/1152	(4pm)	48/1152	(4pm)	53/1152	(4pm)	65/1152	(5:30pm)	$2.1m	6:00 PM
Charlies Angels	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	18/903	(4pm)	20/903	(4pm)	$.9m	4:00 PM
Frozen	122/1824	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)		6:00 PM
A Beautiful Day	30/492	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)		6:00 PM
21 Bridges	26/768	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)		7:00 PM
Knives Out (eps)	42/602	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)		7:00 PM

 

 

 

 

 

NYC Local	Mon		Tues		Wed		Thur		Preview Start
Frozen	122/1824	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)	6:00 PM
A Beautiful Day	30/492	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)	6:00 PM
21 Bridges	26/768	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)	7:00 PM
Knives Out (eps)*	42/602	(4pm)		(4pm)		(5:30pm)		(4pm)	7:00 PM

 

*Knives Out early previews - 7pm showings on Friday & Saturday

[keysersoze123]

19 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

F2 Day 2 Update(T-5 and few hours)

AMC D2 overall 4541 shows 133216/895023 post 6PM 1960 shows 29652/398355 +22506
CIN D2 - overall 4716 shows 120151/781216 post 6PM 1742 shows 17160/292678 +15367

 

Another Ginormous day. AMC is separating itself from CIN and show count is also well up for Day 2. Interesting fact is how much the early shows are dominating the BO for saturday. post 6PM is just around 20% at AMC and under 15% at CIN. I am expecting these numbers to double by saturday morning.

 

I will probably do just Previews and D2 as rest I updated this morning at CIN. Focus will be on those as I expect major ramp up to happen.

F2 Day 2 Sales

AMC D2 - overall 4542 shows 149035/895462 before noon 981 shows 55513/172690 +15819
CIN D2 - overall 4709 shows 133164/780971 before noon 1044 shows 45028/169354 +13013

 

HUGE numbers. I changed to show ticket sales before noon just to see how much they dominate overall sales. Plus the fact that AMC fan screening is at 10AM also skews things a bit.

Edited November 18, 2019 by keysersoze123

[cdsacken]

2 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

I would be careful extrapolating ticket prices for F2. For saturday AMC sales are 38% pre-noon shows. CIN is like 34%. Average ticket price at that hour is like 6 bucks !!! So overall Average price for sat/sun would be much lower than friday and it will be dominated by kids tickets.

 

While numbers are great its still more skewed towards CIN than normal. Empire numbers have improved(671/1810) but still well below blockbuster standards. lincoln square numbers are very low as well. So NYC overall is still under performing.

 

I won’t go above 10m previews/150m for now. But things could still change. For now I want to see AMC show count go up dramatically. its at 1721 which is around half of Joker !!!

Amc walk-ups will be insane. Way higher than Joker was. Guaranteed.

 

This is the perfect Saturday family outing film. Can't wait for Sunday. IMAX time!

Edited November 18, 2019 by cdsacken

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1592

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1624

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
7923	35	22870	34.64%	9	182

The Rise of Skywalker Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

1596

3153

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

1631

3926

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
7959	36	22870	34.80%	9	182

[Inceptionzq]

23 hours ago, Inceptionzq said:

Frozen 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

333

1404

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

377

1695

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1706	162	11878	14.36%	9	69

 

Lion King comp: 11.78M

Frozen 2 Thursday Night Showings Denver

AMC Westminster 24

Total

342

1404

AMC Highlands Ranch 24

Total

402

1695

 

SEATS SOLD	SOLD TODAY	TOTAL SEATS	PERCENT SOLD	THEATERS	SHOWINGS
1881	175	11878	15.84%	9	69

 

Lion King comp: 11.54M

[Deep Wang]

My source got a little curt with me last time I talked to him, so I haven't bothered him lately, but I tried today.  And he's out of the office until December!

 

But he did say that MTC is looking at about 160m for F2 though.  Not that that is of great value or anything, but it's all I got.

 

 

[Eric the Fall Guy]

3 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

My source got a little curt with me last time I talked to him, so I haven't bothered him lately, but I tried today.  And he's out of the office until December!

 

But he did say that MTC is looking at about 160m for F2 though.  Not that that is of great value or anything, but it's all I got.

 

 

Any numbers from you are great and welcome numbers. Don't sweat it!

[Poseidon]

5 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

My source got a little curt with me last time I talked to him, so I haven't bothered him lately, but I tried today.  And he's out of the office until December!

 

But he did say that MTC is looking at about 160m for F2 though.  Not that that is of great value or anything, but it's all I got.

 

 

I always though November record would be where it's headed.

[Stewart]

3 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

My source got a little curt with me last time I talked to him, so I haven't bothered him lately, but I tried today.  And he's out of the office until December!

 

But he did say that MTC is looking at about 160m for F2 though.  Not that that is of great value or anything, but it's all I got.

 

 

WOAH WOAH WOAH!

 

160m in presales?!??! and from just one chain?!?!?! Endgame is in trouble now... 

[keysersoze123]

Just now, Stewart said:

WOAH WOAH WOAH!

 

160m in presales?!??! and from just one chain?!?!?! Endgame is in trouble now... 

jeez. its OW prediction from the MTC. We used to get RS/MTC numbers few years back. Neither were perfect but MTC was better for sure.

[Stewart]

Just now, keysersoze123 said:

jeez. its OW prediction from the MTC. We used to get RS/MTC numbers few years back. Neither were perfect but MTC was better for sure.

I've been here a while keyser, I know what those numbers are 

 

Sense the tone  

 

Was simply making a joke because of DW's ambiguity in his wording