The Little Mermaid | Disney | May 26, 2023 | Queen Halle will rule the summer!

[Mojoguy]

I don't understand the outrage? The original TLM will ALWAYS be there for the world to watch, this new one existing wont erase the original. This wont replace the original but be a companion piece.

 

Just think of this new Ariel as from another multiverse. There are infinite worlds.

 

I'm loving the meltdowns online! It will be feeding me and giving me life over the next few boring boxoffice months though. 

 

 

[Valonqar]

1 minute ago, Mojoguy said:

I don't understand the outrage? The original TLM will ALWAYS be there for the world to watch, this new one existing wont erase the original. This wont replace the original but be a companion piece.

 

Just think of this new Ariel as from another multiverse. There are infinite worlds.

 

I'm loving the meltdowns online! It will be feeding me and giving me life over the next few boring boxoffice months though. 

 

 

 

ngl it's too funny. It's like LOTR:ROP outrage. No one will take Tolkien's trilogy and Jackson's trilogy from anyone. Treat ROP like Hobbit trilogy. You can pretend it doesn't exist, you can only watch for Galadriel and Halbrand sexy tension and skip everything else, it doesn't matter. Tolkien's masterpiece and other books about Middle Earth and Jackson's masterpiece are here to stay, they aren't overhauled or erased or whatever. Same goes for TLM. Book exists. Cartoon exists. Movie exists. Neither erases the other. 

[ChipDerby]

Do the Danish people know mermaids aren't real

[lorddemaxus]

1 hour ago, ThePrinceIsOnFire said:

I'm thinking about Joe Wright

Pretty sure his last movie was more well received in the US than Europe. Europeans detested Cyrano. Darkest Hour, Atonement, Pride and Prejudice are all also highly rated films in the US.

[JustLurking]

Why is this even still worth discussing? Fantasy stories get re-imagined over and over, there's nothing about this story in particular that inherently needs a white character to make it work. Plus if it's just about changes, the original film from Disney is already completely different from the actual story (...which is not exactly family friendly), so it's kind of whatever.

[Ozymandias]

1 hour ago, Valonqar said:

 

ngl it's too funny. It's like LOTR:ROP outrage. No one will take Tolkien's trilogy and Jackson's trilogy from anyone. Treat ROP like Hobbit trilogy. You can pretend it doesn't exist, you can only watch for Galadriel and Halbrand sexy tension and skip everything else, it doesn't matter. Tolkien's masterpiece and other books about Middle Earth and Jackson's masterpiece are here to stay, they aren't overhauled or erased or whatever. Same goes for TLM. Book exists. Cartoon exists. Movie exists. Neither erases the other. 

 

#Saurondriel

[CoolioD1]

1 hour ago, lorddemaxus said:

Pretty sure his last movie was more well received in the US than Europe. Europeans detested Cyrano. Darkest Hour, Atonement, Pride and Prejudice are all also highly rated films in the US.

his pride and prejudice (which i love) definitely has a better reception in the US than the UK because it seems so many here have sworn total loyalty to the 90s BBC colin firth version and won't accept another.

[excel1]

Can't help but feel all of this talk about the "outrage" is growing the influence of the "outrage".

[jedijake]

4 hours ago, Mojoguy said:

I don't understand the outrage? The original TLM will ALWAYS be there for the world to watch, this new one existing wont erase the original. This wont replace the original but be a companion piece.

 

Just think of this new Ariel as from another multiverse. There are infinite worlds.

 

I'm loving the meltdowns online! It will be feeding me and giving me life over the next few boring boxoffice months though. 

 

 

Bingo!

 

Well one thing's for sure, this movie is REALLY the talk of the town and may continue to be for a while (until at least BPWF comes out) and then will be the talk of the town leading up to its release.

 

Aladdin live-action couldn't catch a break leading up to its release, despite the great official trailer. Aladdin wearing a shirt, supposed blackfacing dancers, the fuggly first look at Smith's genie, the horrible RT critic scores, etc. Then, upon its release, it couldn't be stopped. Same (for the most part) with TLK.

Edited September 15, 2022 by jedijake

[excel1]

Aladdin had one of the worst marketing campaigns in years, good thing the film itself was great. The studio needed to unleash A WHOLE NEW WORLD in the very first trailer, not save it for the end. The song is a time machine for middle and younger millennials back to early childhood. 

Edited September 15, 2022 by excel1

[Spidey Freak]

10 hours ago, ChipDerby said:

Do the Danish people know mermaids aren't real

 

Do ppl in Denmark really care? This seems very MAGA crowd from Kentucky, North Florida or wherever typing aS a dAnIsH i aM oFfEndEd like

 

 

[Valonqar]

11 hours ago, Ozymandias said:

 

#Saurondriel

 

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[Cappoedameron]

 

This is disgusting.

[Agafin]

19 hours ago, JustLurking said:

Why is this even still worth discussing? Fantasy stories get re-imagined over and over, there's nothing about this story in particular that inherently needs a white character to make it work. Plus if it's just about changes, the original film from Disney is already completely different from the actual story (...which is not exactly family friendly), so it's kind of whatever.

I mean, there certainly is a double standard here though. I remember there being a huge backlash over Scarlett Johansson being cast as the main character in the Ghost in the Shell movie even though race has no impact whatsoever on the movie.

 

At the end of the day, Disney casting a black person to play the main character in a European based fairy tale is going to elicit the same reaction in Europe that casting a white person in an African/Asian fairy tale would elicit in Africa/Asia. Though all of this is nothing compared to the backlash that the Snow White remake will have given that the race of the character is ABSOLUTELY relevant there. That wil be one for the ages.

[JustLurking]

13 minutes ago, Agafin said:

I mean, there certainly is a double standard here though. I remember there being a huge backlash over Scarlett Johansson being cast as the main character in the Ghost in the Shell movie even though race has no impact whatsoever on the movie.

 

At the end of the day, Disney casting a black person to play the main character in a European based fairy tale is going to elicit the same reaction in Europe that casting a white person in an African/Asian fairy tale would elicit in Africa/Asia. Though all of this is nothing compared to the backlash that the Snow White remake will have given that the race of the character is ABSOLUTELY relevant there. That wil be one for the ages.

I agree, but I didn't care about the Scarlett case and I wouldn't scream at the other one either, so preaching to the choir I'm afraid.

 

I have to agree with you on Snow White, though, that is pretty silly - I mean, it's in the name!

[ChipDerby]

39 minutes ago, Agafin said:

I mean, there certainly is a double standard here though. I remember there being a huge backlash over Scarlett Johansson being cast as the main character in the Ghost in the Shell movie even though race has no impact whatsoever on the movie.

 

At the end of the day, Disney casting a black person to play the main character in a European based fairy tale is going to elicit the same reaction in Europe that casting a white person in an African/Asian fairy tale would elicit in Africa/Asia. Though all of this is nothing compared to the backlash that the Snow White remake will have given that the race of the character is ABSOLUTELY relevant there. That wil be one for the ages.

 

It's not necessarily a double standard. Ghost in the Shell is a far more current story, told specifically from a Japanese perspective, taking place in Japan. 

 

The Little Mermaid takes place in a fictional underwater kingdom with a mermaid.

 

Also, black people exist in Europe. (Yes, white people also exist in Japan. Cool)

 

And there will be little/no backlash for Snow White because Rachel Zegler is white passing. 

[ThePrinceIsOnFire]

There will be a big backlash for Snow White, trust me. Actually, there already is in the italian disney forums I follow. 

Snow White will retain her German-inspired sets, her 15th century (very loosely) inspired dress, and yet she won't be as fair as snow.

Zegler might be white passing, but she looks like a southern european/mediterrean girl, which doesn't fit the german roots of the story and makes the whole "Snow White" name completely senseless. 

 

Also, the little mermaid doesn't take place entirely underwater in a fictional world: most of the story is on the land, staged in the European castle of a european Prince.  The little mermaid was filmed in the Sardinia region of my country, Italy, which as far as I know is still a (mediterrean) country in Europe.  

Now, if they wanted to completely alter the story and set it in the caribbean, they should have abandoned the whole european castle and southern european landscape and just film in the caribbean, while also picking a poc for Eric and pheraps turn him into a governor's son or something like that. 

Instead, much like Ghost in the shell did, this one will retain all the original european elements (while having Triton being a white Spanish man and Eric being an English man) and simply change the ethnicity of the main protagonist in a way that does not make much sense in that specific context.

Edited September 15, 2022 by ThePrinceIsOnFire

[Eric Loves Rey]

2 minutes ago, ThePrinceIsOnFire said:

There will be a big backlash for Snow White, trust me. Actually, there already is in the italian disney forums I follow. 

Snow White will retain her German-inspired sets, her 15th century (very loosely) inspired dress, and yet she won't be as fair as snow.

Zegler might be white passing, but she looks like a southern european/mediterrean girl, which doesn't fit the german roots of the story and makes the whole "Snow White" name completely senseless. 

 

Also, the little mermaid doesn't take place entirely underwater in a fictional world: most of the story is on the land, staged in the European castle of a european Prince.  The little mermaid was filmed in the Sardinia region of my country, Italy, which as far as I know is still a (mediterrean) country in Europe.  

Now, if they wanted to completely alter the story and set it in the carribean, they should have abandoned the whole european castle and southern european landscape and just film in the carribean, while also picking a poc for Eric and pheraps turn him into a governor's son or something like that. 

Instead, much like Ghost in the shell did, this one will retain all the original european elements (while having Triton being a white Spanish man and Eric being an English man) and simply change the ethnicity of the main protagonist in a way that does not make much sense in that specific context.

Okay.

[wildphantom]

After watching Pinocchio I honestly haven’t got it in me to write anything in anticipation for any live action reimaginings for a while. 
The movie was an absolute insult, and one of the worst films the studio have ever produced. 
 

I say that as a massive Zemeckis fan, but there’s just no excusing a debacle of a film in every respect. 
 

I’ll shake it off and get semi hyped for Mermaid in a few months, but for now I’m really disgusted with what they did with Pinocchio. 

[Ozymandias]

10 hours ago, Valonqar said:

 

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