The Box Office Buzz, Tracking, and Pre-Sale Thread

[MovieMan89]

1 hour ago, Speedorito said:

I like that TCP is the film that’s actually blowing up domestically, but people are still latching on to Wonka and Migration.

Well to be fair I think everyone knows the latter two are virtually locked for much stronger multis. But yes, TCP opening is gonna be huge at this rate. 

[keysersoze123]

23 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Wonka MTC1

Previews(T-4) - 25286/474349 455523.68 2266 shows

Friday - 25036/722862 428955.54 3382 shows

 

Definite sign of final surge. 

Wonka MTC1

Previews(T-3) - 28452/522583 509497.22 2582 shows

Friday - 30261/817559 515485.49 3995 shows

Saturday - 28099/838122 432554.91 4080 shows 

 

Growth for previews is just ok but rest of the weekend is motoring along. 

[Eric Prime]

3 hours ago, Relevation said:

#BlackGirlMagic 😎 

[vale9001]

If mean girls makes big money like Wonka and colour purple too (with joker and Wicked coming) next Avengers is a musical 👯‍♀️

[Porthos]

Quick and Dirty Wonka Sacramento Report [T-3]

864/23860 (3.62% sold) [+153 tickets] 178 showtimes

 

0.24427x TLM at T-3      [2.52m]
0.19377x AtSV at T-3      [3.36m]
0.43680x RotB at T-3     [3.84m]
0.13145x Barbie at T-3   [2.93m]

0.94015x HM at T-3.       [2.91m]
0.23377x FNAF at T-3    [2.41m]
0.66055x BOSS at T-3   [3.80m]

 

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Haven't been paying enough attention to local comps (i.e. tonight is the first night I pulled any comps since D1) so no real comments about whether this is over or under-performing locally, nor which direction the comps are moving.  Should have a better sense of both tomorrow when I pull T-2 numbers.

 

As such, any real thoughts on how this is doing locally will have to wait 'till then.

[vafrow]

22 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

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Wonka, T-4, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Theatres: 5

Total Sales: 72

New Sales since last update: 16

Growth: 29%

Showtimes: 19

Radius 19km

 

Tickets/Showtimes by timeslot:

Late afternoon: 10/4

Early Evening: 49/8

Late Evening: 13/7

 

Tickets/Showtimes by format

Regular: 0/0

Dolby: 27/6

VIP: 26/4

IMAX: 16/6

4DX: 3/3

 

Comps

0.246x of HG:BoSS for $1.4M

 

A good day, all things considered, but still doesn't move the needle much.

 

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Wonka, T-3, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Theatres: 5

Total Sales: 90

New Sales since last update: 18

Growth: 25%

Showtimes: 19

Radius 19km

 

Tickets/Showtimes by timeslot:

Late afternoon: 12/4

Early Evening: 65/8

Late Evening: 13/7

 

Tickets/Showtimes by format

Regular: 0/0

Dolby: 38/6

VIP: 26/4

IMAX: 20/6

4DX: 6/3

 

Comps

0.279x of HG:BoSS for $1.6M

 

Some good strong growth down the stretch here.  It's still trailing other markets, but getting to a respectable range.

[vafrow]

22 hours ago, vafrow said:

 

Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, T-11, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Theatres: 5

Total Sales: 38

New Sales since last update: 9

Growth: 31%

Showtimes: 19

Radius 19km

 

Tickets/Showtimes by timeslot:

Late afternoon: 6/4

Early Evening: 30/8

Late Evening: 2/7

 

Tickets/Showtimes by format

Dolby 3D: 2/6

Dolby:  0/1

IMAX: 2/3

IMAX 3D: 18/3

4dx: 0/3

VIP 3D: 2/2

VIP: 14/1

 

Comps

0.105x of The Marvels for $0.7M

0.288x of HG:BoSS for $1.7M

Avg: $1.2M

 

At least it's growth is high. But still, this is just really low.

 

I added Hunger Games as a comp, which helps a bit.

 

Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom, T-10, western GTA (southern Ontario)

 

Theatres: 5

Total Sales: 49

New Sales since last update: 11

Growth: 29%

Showtimes: 19

Radius 19km

 

Tickets/Showtimes by timeslot:

Late afternoon: 6/4

Early Evening: 41/8

Late Evening: 2/7

 

Tickets/Showtimes by format

Dolby 3D: 7/6

Dolby:  0/1

IMAX: 4/3

IMAX 3D: 18/3

4dx: 0/3

VIP 3D: 2/2

VIP: 18/1

 

Comps

0.130x of The Marvels for $0.9M

0.331x of HG:BoSS for $1.9M

Avg: $1.4M

 

If this continues the 30% growth rate, it won't be an all out disaster. 

[TwoMisfits]

PLF 14 set...Wonka got a big expansion, almost doubling its presales shows.  For those counting, Marvels is gone, so it didn't even make it to the next supers open, but there's still a desire here to keep a wide spread of movies...here's the set...

 

NEW

Wonka - 4 screens (2 PLF/2 Reg) - 17 showings

Christmas with the Chosen - .5 screen - 2 showings - this won't break big

 

RETURNING

The Boy and the Heron - 1 screen

Waitress the Musical - 1 screen

Godzilla - 1 screen

The Shift - 1 screen - this has been selling better for religious' folks than the Chosen piece, but I found out the Chosen movie is just 2 old episodes with a little new footage, so not a surprise.

Napoleon - 1 screen

WIsh - 1 screen

HG - BOSS - 1 screen

Trolls 3 - 1 screen

Animal/Hi Nanna - 1 screen (3 showings/2 showings)

Die Hard Anniversary - 1 showing (sharing Xmas with Chosen Screen)

Beyonce - 1 showing - surprised this stayed (sharing Xmas with Chosen Screen)

 

DROPPED

Marvels, Silent Night, Saltburn

[TwoMisfits]

2nd local non-PLF 12 set - also an expansion for Wonka, but just one extra screen.  And Marvels is again gone, with this theater not being as big...

 

NEW

Wonka - 3 screens - 13 showings

Xmas with the Chosen - .75 screen - 3 showings

 

RETURNING

The Boy with the Heron - 1 screen

Godzilla - 1 screen

Napoleon - 1 screen

Wish - 1 screen

HG - BOSS - 1 screen

Trolls - 1 screen

The Shift - .75 screen

Beyonce - 1 showing (still here, too) - shares with Xmas with the Chosen

Animals/Hi Nana - 1 screen (1 / 3 showings)

 

DROPPED

Marvels, Thanksgiving, 2 foreign films

[M37]

Fwiw, Wonka still looking at a ~$3.5M Thursday to me, weekend around ~$30M, no real change in trajectory 

[filmlover]

19 hours ago, Maggie said:

Guys, how's Anyone but You doing?

It's sold a couple of seats for that Friday near me (more than I expected tbh) but otherwise, nada.

[TheFlatLannister]

I should have orlando numbers posted tonight (7pm est) hopefully 

[titanic2187]

17 hours ago, Manny G said:

So yesterday at the movie there was a very cute WB trailer  encompassing Wonka, Aquamomoa and TCP, it was pretty much;  this Christmas come celebrate the holiday with WB then ineterlooped footage of their 3 movies. I thought it was very cute.
 

With everyone and their mama trying to cringely remake Barberneimher WB definitely showed a lot of restraint not having a full blown ”The Color Purple of the Wonkaman” marketing campaign.

If wonka and colour purple succeed big, that will mark big come back for musical genre. A genre that has been struggling in the post-Covid market. I can understand why WB tries to “hide” musical in wonka after the failure they saw with ITH.

[el sid]

Wonka, counted yesterday for Thursday:

NY (AMC Fresh Meadows 7): 82+ (3 showtimes, 3 Sell Outs reported so I couldn't see how many new sales it has and took the number from last Thursday)
Miami (AMC Sunset Place 24): 143 (9 showtimes)
Grand Rapids (AMC Grand Rapids 18): 26 (2 showtimes)
Austin (AMC Lakeline 9): 21 (3 showtimes)
Tempe/Phoenix (AMC Centerpoint 11): 9 (3 showtimes)
San Francisco (AMC Metreon 16): 258 (9 showtimes)
LA (AMC Universal): 318 (8 showtimes)

 

Total tickets sold in 7 theaters: 857+ (the new sales in NY are missing due to the error, therefore the +).

Up 39% since last Thursday.
Comps: The Little Mermaid (10.3M from previews) had 1.505 sold tickets = 5.9M from previews for Wonka,
Dungeons & Dragons (4.1M) had 724 = 4.8M,
Dolittle (925k) had 156 sold tickets = 5.1M,
Uncharted (3.7M) had 868 = 3.65M,
Lyle, Lyle, Crocodile (575k) had 49 = 10.05M
and Jurassic World Dominion (18M) had 3.214 sold tickets = 4.8M.
Super Pets (2.2M) had on Tuesday = 1 day later 271 sold tickets
and Strange Word (a Tuesday release; 2.5M true Thursday) had 88 sold tickets.
On an average (without Super Pets and Strange World) = 5.7M. Seems a little bit too optimistic but five of my six comps point to 4-6M so maybe this average isn't too far off.

I can't complain. Last week I said that I expect at least 700 sold tickets and hoped for 750-800. Now the number is even better. Without the untrue Sell Out reports in the AMC in NY Wonka would have had close to 900 sold tickets yesterday (I tried it again today but the error didn't vanish so far).

Edited December 12, 2023 by el sid

[keysersoze123]

22 hours ago, keysersoze123 said:

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 93991/317030 1187778.93 2244 shows

12/26 - 23488/304540 296386.00 2131 shows

 

Still WOW. This kind of pace this far ahead is nuts for sure. 

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 99607/324776 1258796.15 2292 shows

12/26 - 25167/310741 317289.67 2175 shows

 

 Atleast it did not maintain the crazy pace seen yesterday. Still its very strong. I think if capacity is not a concern, it could hit 20m OD :-)  

[jeffthehat]

On 12/11/2023 at 2:21 PM, jeffthehat said:

 

Wonka T-3

 

Coverage - 10/33 Malco theaters

Showtimes - 33

Seats sold - 293

Seats available - 5765

New sales - 24 (+8.9%)

 

Comps

 

0.475x Marvels T-3 = $3.14m

0.503x HG BoSS T-3 = $2.89m

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Showing a little more life here. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wonka T-2 

 

Coverage - 10/33 Malco theaters

Showtimes - 33

Seats sold - 307

Seats available - 5765

New sales - 14 (+4.7%)

 

Comps

 

0.438x Marvels T-2 = $2.89m

0.447x HG BoSS T-2 = $2.57m

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Very bad day at this stage. 

 

The good news is Friday sales look strong. Friday tickets were only on sale at 5 of the theaters when I checked this morning and it was at 435 seats sold. 

 

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2023 by jeffthehat

[Grand Cine]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 99607/324776 1258796.15 2292 shows

12/26 - 25167/310741 317289.67 2175 shows

 

 Atleast it did not maintain the crazy pace seen yesterday. Still its very strong. I think if capacity is not a concern, it could hit 20m OD 🙂  

Yeah i think yesterday , the movie had a Golden Globes effect even with the less nominations , the numbers stays crazy for Chirstmas day but the pace for the 26th are stable and are higher than Wonka and Aquaman at the same time of tracking and also i think with holidays the walkups will be much higher than normal , i continue to say than the movie will dominate the box office from its release

 

@keysersoze123 Is that despite the fact that there is a fall between the first two days , the film will exceed 100 million , or even 150 million if the word of mouth is excellent

Edited December 12, 2023 by Grand Cine

[HummingLemon496]

4 hours ago, TheFlatLannister said:

I should have orlando numbers posted tonight (7pm est) hopefully 

 

[HummingLemon496]

1 hour ago, keysersoze123 said:

Color Purple MTC1

12/25 - 99607/324776 1258796.15 2292 shows

12/26 - 25167/310741 317289.67 2175 shows

 

 Atleast it did not maintain the crazy pace seen yesterday. Still its very strong. I think if capacity is not a concern, it could hit 20m OD 🙂  

The Color Purple is probably winning December in the US. . .

 

This movie deserves it!

[abracadabra1998]

22 hours ago, abracadabra1998 said:

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Wonka (T-3):

Day: T-3	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 18 theaters	91	69	435	17373	2.5

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		313	40	71.95
MTC1:		259	36	59.54
Marcus:		43	5	9.89
Alamo:		59	10	13.56
Other chains:		74	18	17.01

 

Comps:

0.09x Barbie (THU): $1.81 Million

1.45x Wish (TUE): $2.62 Million

2.81x Trolls Band Together: $3.65 Million

1.17x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $3.62 Million

0.35x Hunger Games: $2.01 Million

0.3x Indiana Jones: $2.17 Million

 

Average: $2.65 Million

 

Average still dropping slightly, but the PLF share is still very robust (higher than Hunger Games, for example).

 

Minneapolis-St. Paul Area Previews:

 

Wonka (T-2):

Day: T-2	Shows	New Seats	Sold	Seats	% Sold
Totals: 20 theaters	128	75	510	21268	2.4

 

Type of tix:		Total:	New:	Percentage:
PLFs:		365	52	71.57
MTC1:		302	43	59.22
Marcus:		51	8	10
Alamo:		65	6	12.75
Other chains:		92	18	18.04

 

Comps:

0.08x Barbie (THU): $1.77 Million

1.51x Wish (TUE): $2.72 Million

2.58x Trolls Band Together: $3.35 Million

1.21x Haunted Mansion (w/ EA): $3.76 Million

0.35x Hunger Games: $2.03 Million

0.3x Indiana Jones: $2.14 Million

 

Average: $2.63 Million

 

Staying flat, but the comps versus the family-oriented fare (Wish, Trolls, Haunted Mansion) are still very encouraging (that average is $3.28 Million, without accounting for Wish's Tuesday discount). Kind of regretting comping it with so many IP blockbusters but I guess the growth rates tomorrow will be revealing.