Weekend Thread: Top 5 Actuals- The Lion King $76.62M | OUATIH $41.08M | SM: FFH $12.45M | TS3 $10.45M | CRAWL $4.06M

[SteveJaros]

Billionaire Boys Club filling up fast - Spider-man and Aladdin this past week, The Lion King and Toy Story 4 this week or at latest the next. 

 

Great box office times! 

[Avatree]

6 minutes ago, john2000 said:

oh didnt know that frozen 2 was that stagerred in terms of os release date ,yeah 

Frozen 2 isn't really staggered, there's only a few countries releasing outside of november

[Mekanos]

Hollywood weekend numbers are kind of boring to be honest. Neither hugely above or below the general expectations. Curious about the legs though.

Edited July 28, 2019 by Mekanos

[Julian1410]

Next year Will be a very different year also for Disney. Where iT really played iT safe this year with movies who were always gonna make big bucks, next year they have two experimental Marvel movies, no star wars movie , 3 original animations, a Movie with a Chinese lead , cruella, jungle cruise and Artemis . That is not a line up that says 5 billion dollar movies save for mulan. IT also seems that the studio’s next year Will kick iT up a notch to compete

[maxalcamo]

 

"Hollywood is playing younger than expected, 60 percent of ticket buyers between 18-34"

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/once-a-time-hollywood-box-office-rides-40m-but-cant-catch-lion-king-1227495

[meriodejaneiro]

3 minutes ago, Julian1410 said:

Next year Will be a very different year also for Disney. Where iT really played iT safe this year with movies who were always gonna make big bucks, next year they have two experimental Marvel movies, no star wars movie , 3 original animations, a Movie with a Chinese lead , cruella, jungle cruise and Artemis . That is not a line up that says 5 billion dollar movies save for mulan. IT also seems that the studio’s next year Will kick iT up a notch to compete

Disney 2020's business is D+ ... and it's gonna rock it for sure. 

[AlexMA]

So basically Disney will end up with over $10 billion worldwide in 2019 from just 10 releases (one of which was a documentary, by the way, and we're also not counting the Fox stuff). It will be a long time before another studio (even Disney) ever match this year.

[charlie Jatinder]

Just now, meriodejaneiro said:

Disney 2020's business is D+ ... and it's gonna rock it for sure. 

D+ has rights to IPL, Indian cricket matches, ICC matches via Hotstar. That gives it market of around 100mn subs in India alone.

 

Netflix has currently around 150mn subs worldwide.

 

However the revenue from above 100mn subs would be hardly $1.5Bn annually.

[Nova]

4 minutes ago, AlexMA said:

So basically Disney will end up with over $10 billion worldwide in 2019 from just 10 releases (one of which was a documentary, by the way, and we're also not counting the Fox stuff). It will be a long time before another studio (even Disney) ever match this year.

8 films over $1B a piece. 

-Captain Marvel, End Game, Aladdin, Spider-Man, Toy Story 4, TLK, Frozen 2 and Star Wars. 

 

Unreal when you realize just how few movies have broken a Billie and yet Disney is gonna do it with 8 of their films. 

[thedast]

1 hour ago, MrGlass2 said:

Damn, how many decades of inflation will the Spider-Men reboots need to beat God Raimi?

I see it this way, Avengers #7 may probably end up being better than Infinity War, but it's still the 7th Avengers movie, the concept has been done to death.

[AlexMA]

2 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

D+ has rights to IPL, Indian cricket matches, ICC matches via Hotstar. That gives it market of around 100mn subs in India alone.

 

Netflix has currently around 150mn subs worldwide.

 

However the revenue from above 100mn subs would be hardly $1.5Bn annually.

This is very important to keep in mind, as they can't really charge in India what they can charge in most other countries.

 

So what do you think they'll charge in India when it gets there in 2020? Netflix are doing the $3 a month mobile only plan specifically for India, will Disney try to match that? With the cricket matches I think they could potentially ask for more, but also that would likely cut into the total number of subscribers they can get. So it ends up being a question of volume and do they want to serve a bigger audience but get less from them, or do they think they can charge a premium and get away with it without losing too many million potential subscribers.

[Valonqar]

11 minutes ago, maxalcamo said:

 

"Hollywood is playing younger than expected, 60 percent of ticket buyers between 18-34"

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/once-a-time-hollywood-box-office-rides-40m-but-cant-catch-lion-king-1227495

LOL, THR must be the only one that expected OUTIH to catch TLK. 

[BoxOfficeFangrl]

1 hour ago, MrPink said:

 

Voice acting could be so much worse tbf

 

 

 

Dion Waiters! I only know who he is because of the Rewatchables podcast.  Horrible voice work but they probably figured nobody really bothers with NBA video games because of the non-basketball scenes. 

 

James Earl Jones is 88, not surprising his voice isn't what it was 25 years ago. Is interesting to consider that the voice work in the international versions might make a genuine difference in the reception of the overall movie. Most live-action movies are dubbed internationally but I wonder if that's as much of an issue? Even with comedy, it's more about whether the type of humor works in different cultures.

 

35 minutes ago, Charlie Jatinder said:

Taking a break from numbers for sometime. Unless something breakout, I won't be sharing weekdays numbers. May be Weekend I will continue.

Enjoy your break and thanks for all the numbers so far!

 

Once Upon a Time in Hollywood had (slightly) higher previews then Dunkirk and is already $10 million dollars under it for the opening weekend, not an encouraging sign for legs. OUATIH is a longer movie, so fewer showings, and no IMAX boost, either. But first weekend is hardly ever the entire story of a movie's run, so we'll have to wait and see...

Edited July 28, 2019 by BoxOfficeFangrl

[Davidwested]

3 hours ago, sfran43 said:

 

After 5 weekends in the heat of the summer competiton this little R rated Horror gem is now over 200 milion WW and getting close to 210 million WW. Outstanding considering the other 2 Annabelle's did not face the competition the 3rd one has faced.

[AlexMA]

3 minutes ago, Nova said:

8 films over $1B a piece. 

-Captain Marvel, End Game, Aladdin, Spider-Man, Toy Story 4, TLK, Frozen 2 and Star Wars. 

 

Unreal when you realize just how few movies have broken a Billie and yet Disney is gonna do it with 8 of their films. 

Before this decade you could count the 1 billion earners on one hand (Titanic made it there in 1998, Return of the King, Dead Man's Chest, The Dark Knight and Avatar got there in 2003, 2006, 2008 and 2009). Now we don't have anywhere near enough extremities to get up to the 41 we currently have, and that number will grow to at least 45 by the end of the year.

[LawrenceBrolivier]

So the 4pm previews did contribute to some meaningful frontloading on Once Upon a Time then? 

If the demographics that Hollywood Reporter are reporting is correct.... and the younger audiences aren't enjoying the movie as much because they simply don't have the cultural context to appreciate what Tarantino is doing with the movie.... plus the tone and feel of it being closer to Jackie Brown's focus on aging... how big will the 2nd weekend plunge be? 

Are we looking at Quentin having both his biggest opening weekend and his biggest 2nd weekend drop? Is a 65-70% drop possible considering the middling word-of-mouth? 

[maxalcamo]

Everyone always talk of how many billions movies disney has when all their releases this year have a cost than not less than 300M between budget and obligated massive promotional costs cause bigger the budget bigger the cost of promotion to make money.

 

If we only see how many 1 billions  movie a studio has there is no competion, if we see the biggest  5 movies of the year they all disney but the fact is they all need to do 300M more in the us to be a success. Some of the other studios has different strategies than only big 1 B movies.

Bohemian Raphsody did less than captain marvel but it's a bigger success. In 2018 Warner got a star is born with 434M dollar on a 39M budget, Crazy asians with 238M on a 30M bufget, the nun with 365M on a 22M budget etc.. Of course they didn't beat any 300M dollars disney movie (or every disney movie should be a big flop) but they are huge financial success too.

Edited July 28, 2019 by maxalcamo

[PDC1987]

5 minutes ago, LawrenceBrolivier said:

So the 4pm previews did contribute to some meaningful frontloading on Once Upon a Time then? 

If the demographics that Hollywood Reporter are reporting is correct.... and the younger audiences aren't enjoying the movie as much because they simply don't have the cultural context to appreciate what Tarantino is doing with the movie.... plus the tone and feel of it being closer to Jackie Brown's focus on aging... how big will the 2nd weekend plunge be? 

Are we looking at Quentin having both his biggest opening weekend and his biggest 2nd weekend drop? Is a 65-70% drop possible considering the middling word-of-mouth? 

Middling wom according to whom?

[PDC1987]

Just now, maxalcamo said:

Everyone always talk of how many billions movie disney has when all they release this years has a cost than not less than 300M between budget and obligated massive promotional costs cause bigger the budget bigger the cost of promotion to make money.

 

If we only see how many 1 billions  movie a studio has there is no competion, if we see the biggest  5 movies of the year they all disney but the fact is they all need to do 300M more in the us to be a success. Some of the other studios has different strategies than only big 1 B movies.

Bohemian Raphsody did less than captain marvel but it's a bigger success. In 2018 Warner got a star is born with 434M dollar on a 39M budget, Crazy asians with 238M on a 30M bufget, the nun with 365M on a 22M budget etc.. Of course they didn't beat any 300M dollars disney movie (or every disney movie should be a big flop) but they are huge financial success too.

Literally no one was arguing this point.

[LawrenceBrolivier]

The Ringer wrote an article about Endgame beating Avatar, and is focused on the superfans who went hundreds of times, and the superfans running websites trying to explain why it was important to them

https://www.theringer.com/movies/2019/7/26/8931278/marvel-avengers-endgame-beat-avatar-highest-grossing-film-all-time

3 minutes ago, PDC1987 said:

Middling wom according to whom?

 

Not that I give a lot of credence to CinemaScore or PosTrack for reasons explained way earlier in the thread, but it's not doing very well there. A "B" grade sounds okay until you realize a "C" is more or less a failing grade on their scale... plus the fact it opened with bigger previews than Dunkirk and will close at $10mil less speaks to the idea that people who saw it Thursday and Friday told other people it wasn't maybe worth catching in the theater... Edited July 28, 2019 by LawrenceBrolivier