HAN SOLO MEMORIAL (day weekend) THREAD | Solo Flops Domestically with 83M/101M weekend. Spectacularly Bombs Overseas with 65M weekend.

[Alli]

2 minutes ago, nevermore said:

Marvel's build a massive audience OS over the years and now it's paying off. Meanwhile SW is rapidly losing audience OS.

Sw was never big OS.  And it's hard for people to start the series now after so many past movies they didn't watch

[a2k]

3 minutes ago, Brainbug said:

Justice League and Solo are both megaflops.

 

However, one of them managed a Worldwide gross that is at least not totally embarrassing in raw numbers.

 

The other one...well...it wont.

both have a 300 prod budget to reshoots,

jl's theatrical revenue is 229*0.55 + 323*0.33 + 106*0.25 = 259 (658 ww)

solo's could be be 220*0.55 + 170*0.33 + 16*0.25 = 181 (406 ww)

[Jonwo]

Just now, Barnack said:

Cleopatra adjust to a 460m domestic box office run on a 350m budget, would be not bad now a day with international market.

 

Apparently Fox turned a profit 4-5 year's later with it's ABC tv run. The giant flop aura surrounding some old movies were in part of a press tradition to only look domestic box office and that grew in a time when the only possible revenues for a movie was the box office. Cleopatra domestic rental was a bit lower than it's expense but not by much.

I imagine OS didn't contribute much back in the day.

[The Futurist]

Is Avatar the franchise of the future ?

Can JC really pull it off ?

Place your bets folks.

In 31 months, we ll know.

Edited May 27, 2018 by The Futurist

[John Marston]

Just now, The Futurist said:

Is Avatar the franchise of the future ?

Can JC really pull it off ?

Place your bets folks.

In 31 months, we ll know.

 

 

Avatar 2 should be fairly huge even though it won't make Avatar 1 numbers. 

 

 

each sequel should make less and less though

[Mekanos]

Just think about this whole shindig starting with a dated joke about social media.

 

[ZattMurdock]

1 minute ago, The Futurist said:

Is Avatar the franchise of the future ?

Can JC really pull it off ?

Place your bets folks.

In 31 months, we ll know.

LOL 

[nevermore]

1 minute ago, Alli said:

Sw was never big OS.  And it's hard for people to start the series now after so many past movies they didn't watch

The problem is they can't retain the ones they have. Solo was completely rejected.

[eddyxx]

11 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

just came back from watching solo a second time still fun that's already more times than i've seen last jedi

were you....solo?

[Zakiyyah6]

Episode 9 is not guaranteed to make 1 billion worldwide. Somebody had to say the truth, right?

[Horner]

10 minutes ago, CJohn said:

Time to reboot Indiana Jones after the 5th one so they can release one of those every 2 years.

 

Ron Howard was saying a couple of days ago he was having serious discussions with LFL about a Willow sequel.  Maybe they can put all three franchises on a rotation.

[YM!]

I feel that the next films to suffer from a major disappointment after a bad follow up is Bummble and Dark Phoenix 

Edited May 27, 2018 by YourMother the Edgelord

[filmnerdjamie]

3 minutes ago, Jonwo said:

I imagine OS didn't contribute much back in the day.

Nothing other than Bond (which even in its mid-60s zeitgeist heyday still did massively more overseas than domestically).

[Mekanos]

Just now, Zakiyyah6 said:

Episode 9 is not guaranteed to make 1 billion worldwide. Somebody had to say the truth, right?

Civil War numbers are looking pretty good for it right about now. 

[CoolioD1]

fifty shades of grey, x-men origins wolverine, passion of the christ, the hangover part 2.

 

don't mind me, just listing the movies that had bigger openings than Solo: A Star Wars Story

[incognitoo]

56 minutes ago, Nova said:

I think Deadpool is playing a small role in X-Force based on what Ryan said. I think they'll include him in it just to add more interest in the film. However I do think it's smart of them to wait on DP3 and do an X-Force film just so they can give folks a bit of a rest from Deadpool in general. And I wouldn't be surprised if that's why they're holding back on DP3. Well that and also the merger. 

 

And i know. Deadpool 2 was great but I always get worried when it comes to Disney. They could see the decline in BO and then using that as an excuse to not make movies with the character anymore OR make movies with the character but without Reynolds 

I am not so worried about the mouse house pulling the plug on Deadpool but bringing on the corporate heat to get this a PG13 rating. Which essentially would be the same as pulling the plug as this franchise lives from being that violent, cursing odd man out in the CBMs.

[FantasticBeasts]

Well seems like wikipedia is ahead of their times for once

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_box_office_bombs

Solo already made an appearance  

[Barnack]

44 minutes ago, Nova said:

See but I think $150M is way too much and would not lead to profit for the studio. I think they really need to find a way to keep it under $130M but I'm not sure how you do that with a team up film 

150M is less than Deepwater horizon/Fantastic 4 gross budget or what they had in mind for Gambit....

 

If 150m does not lead to profit for a studio you probably should not make it at $130m either, that making $20m on a 300m investment.

 

https://fastlane.louisianaeconomicdevelopment.com/Film/FilmSearch.aspx

Project Number	Film ID #	Production Title	Production Type	Company Name	Estimated Total Jobs	Estimated Total Budget	Estimated LA Expenditures	Estimated LA Payroll	Application Received Date	Initial Certification Date	Final Certification Date	Total Granted Tax Credits	Amount Credits Transferred to State
20151629	0669-2010	The Twilight Saga: Breaking Dawn	feature film	TSBD Louisiana, LLC	450	$247,300,432	$98,283,323	$81,683,395	09/01/2010	09/13/2010	11/15/2011	$33,154,211	$33,154,211
20151683	0631-2010	Untitled Hasbro Battleship Project	feature film	Battleship Delta Investments LLC	1575	$214,995,758	$67,667,444	$37,679,841	05/26/2010	06/24/2010	03/06/2013	$16,987,026	$0
20161761	0836-2011	The Untitled Tom Cruise Project	feature film	Crater Lake Productions, LLC	1215	$160,000,000	$75,000,000	$12,000,000	11/07/2011	12/06/2011	12/02/2014	$22,930,228	$0

 

 

Project Number	Film ID #	Production Title	Production Type	Company Name	Estimated Total Jobs	Estimated Total Budget	Estimated LA Expenditures	Estimated LA Payroll	Application Received Date	Initial Certification Date	Final Certification Date	Total Granted Tax Credits	Amount Credits Transferred to State
20140874	1139-2014	THE FANTASTIC FOUR	feature film	Twentieth Century Fox	800	$154,778,784	$28,987,527	$55,740,609	05/07/2014	06/20/2014	06/02/2016	$3,253,262	$0
20140874	1139-2014	THE FANTASTIC FOUR	feature film	Twentieth Century Fox	800	$154,778,784	$28,987,527	$55,740,609	05/07/2014	06/20/2014	03/14/2016	$27,003,031	$0
20140122	1102-2014	Terminator: Genesis	feature film	T5 Pictures, LLC	669	$158,477,632	$104,114,461	$27,660,635	01/10/2014	02/20/2014	08/06/2015	$289,012	$0
20140122	1102-2014	Terminator: Genesis	feature film	T5 Pictures, LLC	669	$158,477,632	$104,114,461	$27,660,635	01/10/2014	02/20/2014	05/01/2015	$32,843,775	$0
20150050	1226-2015	DEEPWATER HORIZON	feature film	SUMMIT ENTERTAINMENT, LLC	2500	$156,000,000	$118,000,000	$83,000,000	01/07/2015	02/19/2015	06/28/2016	$37,737,087	$0
20151084	1291-2015	GAMBIT	feature film	Twentieth Century Fox	431	$154,975,309	$111,834,168	$28,098,668	06/19/2015	06/26/2015
20151438	0750-2011	G.I. Joe II: Cobra Strikes	feature film	Government Issue LLC	0	$155,173,377	$35,914,854	$71,358,916	04/07/2011	05/05/2011	08/18/2014	$3,181,799	$0
20151438	0750-2011	G.I. Joe II: Cobra Strikes	feature film	Government Issue LLC	0	$155,173,377	$35,914,854	$71,358,916	04/07/2011	05/05/2011	09/24/2012	$30,427,098	$0
20151540	1016-2013	Invertigo	feature film	Gravitational Investments	3000	$194,911,224	$98,104,669	$18,154,178	04/22/2013	05/22/2013
20151571	0965-2012	Dawn of the Planet of the Apes	feature film	Fox Louisiana Investment LLC	3500	$235,329,191	$96,921,775	$59,392,527	11/05/2012	02/27/2013	12/16/2014	$26,421,007	$0

[Thrylos 7]

26 minutes ago, Hunch said:

A huge embarrassing mess for Disney

 

The drop from Rogue One is worse than the drop Revolutions had from Reloaded, and that was considered one of the benchmark worst drops ever for a franchise.

 

Han Solo, the mega iconic character, is doing less than Doctor Strange on OW.

 

I love seeing a giant corporation get bitten in the ass by their greed, but I'm also sad because this means a Kenobi film starring Ewan McGregor is less likely. This might be the end of the 'A Star Wars Story' films altogether. 

I am quoting this post as an example of many other posts I have seen and I have to ask : why are people underestimating/downplaying the dr. Strange character so much ? He is one of the most fascinating marvel characters that has a great leading star (despite some people here not liking him), a fantastic premise and the first film was just the tip of iceberg, the dr. Strange franchise has huge untapped potential now that the origin story is done. A well done second dr. Strange film can surprise with its box office take, I really don’t see why people treat him like ant man. Oh and before someone says “he is unknown “, that doesn’t matter just like it didn’t matter for GOTG, treat these films as standalone products not as comic book adaptions.

[filmnerdjamie]

1 minute ago, Zakiyyah6 said:

Episode 9 is not guaranteed to make 1 billion worldwide. Somebody had to say the truth, right?

Not anymore it isn't. What is the hook to make us care?