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[LawrenceBrolivier]

10 minutes ago, TMP said:

The animated film flopped, why wouldn't the remake too?

The animated film flopped because Warner Bros sold it terribly and then dumped it.... in the intervening 20 years it's become a legitimate family classic. A live-action remake... which I wouldn't want tbh.... with proper marketing and those 20 years of goodwill among multiple generations... would lead to a substantial box office. 

The Iron Giant isn't like Blade Runner where the film's mystique and legend is due to being difficult and weird and cold. Blade Runner 2049 did what it did because it's a sequel to a film that most of its fans don't even LIKE the first time they watch it.... and that sequel ended up ALSO being a weird, cold, difficult film.

 

The Iron Giant's success is due to how accessible and emotional it is. It's not a "cult" film. If you're looking for a Warner Bros. comparison to make, I'd suggest Shawshank before I put up Blade Runner. Shawshank didn't make any money at the box office either... 

[AJG]

19 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

[Jonwo]

4 minutes ago, YourMother the Edgelord said:

Its WB and a family film. It’s destined to die.

I think a live action Iron Giant would do well because it wasn't a hit first time around, the film itself is an adaptation of the book so I don't think people would have issues with a live action version

[TMP]

Live action Iron Giant sounds like a nightmare, but at least giant robots aren't real so his CGI replica could be allowed to emote

[The Panda]

Seems like my “Kids hate the Lion King 2019” bit has made the thread title.

 

[Andreas]

5 minutes ago, cdsacken said:

Predictions were 170-210 roughly before Thursday night. Box office pro predicted 185. Don't be ridiculous. Things will continue to "disappoint" in relation to previews as previews continue to expand.

Your point being...?

Hypothetically, if a movie is predicted to flop, and it does indeed flop, does that stop making it a flop, just because it was predicted?

 

With I2 making $182M on OW and BatB making $175M, I don't see how $170M for TLK would be considered a "huge success". TLK is so much more well-known and beloved than those stories are.

[BoxOfficeZ]

This talk makes me wonder if something like a Treasure Planet live action remake would be neat.

 

But... can we please make new movies and not talk about remaking classics? 

[Jonwo]

Just now, TMP said:

Live action Iron Giant sounds like a nightmare, but at least giant robots aren't real so his CGI replica could be allowed to emote

The Iron Giant does lend itself better to live action but I think from WB's POV, it's more of a risk compared to say Looney Tunes or Tom and Jerry. 

 

 

[filmlover]

Who would play The Iron Giant? I suggest getting Vin Diesel again. Dude's already proven his commitment to playing a tree, who's to say he can't play a robot giant?

 

[JimiQ]

On 7/18/2019 at 9:51 PM, JimiQ said:

Nah, my gut still says AoU numbers

Still on track

[cdsacken]

Just now, Andreas said:

Your point being...?

Hypothetically, if a movie is predicted to flop, and it does indeed flop, does that stop making it a flop, just because it was predicted?

 

With I2 making $182M on OW and BatB making $175M, I don't see how $170M for TLK would be considered a "huge success". TLK is so much more well-known and beloved than those stories are.

Call it whatever you want. Calling 1.5B a flop is idiotic. Flop for big budget is Justice League. 

[charlie Jatinder]

58-60

 

I don't wanna read something like "ok so 50-55". That will be depressing tbh.

 

OD is basically hit and trial, from day 2 we know how ratios gonna play so do consider that. Good night.

Edited July 20, 2019 by Charlie Jatinder

[That One Girl]

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Edited March 2, 2022 by That One Guy

[Geo1500]

8 minutes ago, LawrenceBrolivier said:

The animated film flopped because Warner Bros sold it terribly and then dumped it.... in the intervening 20 years it's become a legitimate family classic. A live-action remake... which I wouldn't want tbh.... with proper marketing and those 20 years of goodwill among multiple generations... would lead to a substantial box office. 

The Iron Giant isn't like Blade Runner where the film's mystique and legend is due to being difficult and weird and cold. Blade Runner 2049 did what it did because it's a sequel to a film that most of its fans don't even LIKE the first time they watch it.... and that sequel ended up ALSO being a weird, cold, difficult film.

 

The Iron Giant's success is due to how accessible and emotional it is. It's not a "cult" film. If you're looking for a Warner Bros. comparison to make, I'd suggest Shawshank before I put up Blade Runner. Shawshank didn't make any money at the box office either... 

 

Tom and Jerry but it dosen't translate well into live-action. 

 

Dexters lab ( Great potential at the BO)

Power puff girls ( very risky BO potential)

The Mask (They need to hire jim carry level actor and imho this would do great at the box office)

Johnny Bravo ( If done properly it can get 500M-700M WW) 

 

The two most promosing of the list above are obviously the mask and dexters lab.

 

Other honorable mentions: 

 

Chicken and Cow ( Nope this won't work) 

Weasel and I.R baboon ( No won't work) 

Fearless (50/50 but highly risky) 

Ed, Edd and Eddy ( Hahahahah this one would be completely ridiculous and hilarious in the same time seeing it in Live-action and imho it could done 500-600M WW just due to it's ridiculous comedy type) 

Bug bunny ( Nope) 

Duck (Nope) 

Samurai Jack ( This could do okay if done properly but still 400M ww) 

 

 

Edited July 20, 2019 by Geo1500

[Jonwo]

Just now, BoxOfficeZ said:

This talk makes me wonder if something like a Treasure Planet live action remake would be neat.

 

But... can we please make new movies and not talk about remaking classics? 

Given Disney remade Pete's Dragon, I don't think we can rule out Treasure Planet but there are more moderate hits that are in the back catalogue that have better potential.

 

I'm surprised Newsies has never been remade especially since they could use the stage musical as its source rather than the film,

[HeadShot]

46 minutes ago, Waffles said:

United States Blu-ray Sales Chart for Week Ending June 16, 2019

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Chart Index

 

		Title	Units this Week	% Change	Total Units	Spending this Week	Total Spending	Weeks
1	(-)	Captain Marvel	1,264,203		1,264,203	$15,435,919	$15,435,919	3
2	(-)	Aquaman	59,986	+135%	1,274,409	$914,793	$19,434,729	15
3	(-)	Spider-Man: Into The Spider-Verse 3D	58,002	+99%	1,126,028	$717,480	$33,211,725	16
4	(-)	The LEGO Movie 2: The Second Part	49,089	-33%	519,352	$981,289	$14,107,891	9
5	(-)	John Wick: Chapter Two	44,121	+217%	1,515,570	$397,086	$25,047,911	105
6	(-)	Creed II	43,223	+482%	311,523	$431,799	$7,723,333	15
7	(-)	How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World	42,869	-54%	633,225	$1,031,431	$15,763,755	7
8	(-)	Fantastic Beasts: The Crimes of Grindelwald	36,687	+174%	914,792	$549,941	$33,042,822	18
9	(-)	Ghostbusters 1 & 2	30,998	+1,128%	299,003	$1,203,352	$5,665,150	248
10	(-)	Five Feet Apart	29,532		29,532	$589,454	$589,454	4
11	(-)	Bumblebee	27,180	+21%	844,947	$543,335	$18,985,247	11

 

I was told Alita would demolish CM in home media sales because people only saw CM cause of EG. 

[TMP]

13 hours ago, The Panda said:

Kids 

12 hours ago, The Panda said:

kids!

12 hours ago, The Panda said:

Kids

12 hours ago, The Panda said:

kids 

12 hours ago, The Panda said:

kids!

15 hours ago, The Panda said:

kids ... kids

3 hours ago, The Panda said:

kids

7 minutes ago, The Panda said:

Kids

Edited July 20, 2019 by TMP

[cookie]

I'd stan for an Atlantis do-over tbh, mainly due to how underdeveloped the original is and how a proper treatment could be gangbusters.

[The Panda]

1 hour ago, CJohn said:

Not getting to 200M is an underperformance, IMO. It should have done it fairly easily.

Should have gotten Tom Hooper to direct it!

[sfran43]

WIDE (1000+)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	The Lion King	$192,500,000	—	4,725	—	$40,741	$192,500,000	1	Walt Disney Pictures
2	Spider-Man: Far from Home	$21,000,000	-54%	4,415	-219	$4,757	$319,659,412	3	Sony / Columbia
3	Toy Story 4	$13,600,000	-35%	3,750	-460	$3,627	$374,533,349	5	Disney
4	Crawl	$5,400,000	-55%	3,170	0	$1,703	$23,234,810	2	Paramount Pictures
5	Yesterday	$4,800,000	-28%	2,662	-93	$1,803	$57,296,465	4	Universal Pictures
6	Stuber	$3,900,000	-53%	3,050	0	$1,279	$15,981,864	2	20th Century Fox
7	Aladdin	$3,700,000	-40%	2,105	-452	$1,758	$339,940,714	9	Disney
8	Annabelle Comes Home	$2,600,000	-54%	1,981	-1228	$1,312	$66,522,201	4	Warner Bros.
9	Midsommar	$1,600,000	-56%	1,105	-1602	$1,448	$22,483,028	3	A24
10	The Secret Life of Pets 2	$1,500,000	-53%	1,380	-940	$1,087	$151,521,165	7	Universal

LIMITED (100 — 999)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Avengers: Endgame	$1,300,000	-38%	985	-458	$1,320	$854,317,643	13	Disney
2	The Art of Self-Defense	$1,200,000	949%	550	543	$2,182	$1,359,289	2	Bleecker Street
3	Rocketman	$920,000	-45%	720	-612	$1,278	$93,937,371	8	Paramount Pictures
4	John Wick: Chapter 3 – Parabellum	$600,000	-55%	584	-561	$1,027	$168,831,227	10	Lionsgate
5	Men in Black: International	$540,000	-76%	554	-1058	$975	$78,164,108	6	Sony / Columbia
6	Dark Phoenix	$195,000	-2%	185	-15	$1,054	$65,371,540	7	Fox
7	Bethany Hamilton: Unstoppable	$50,000	-79%	138	-67	$362	$440,024	2	Entertainment Studios Motion Pictures

PLATFORM (1 — 99)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Anna	$65,000	-16%	73	-19	$890	$7,612,489	5	Lionsgate / Summit
2	Dumbo	$40,000	-13%	65	-27	$615	$114,710,281	17	Walt Disney Pictures