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[Valonqar]

2 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

Space sci-fi also just doesn't fare that well in China compared to other genres.  

true, GOTG ain't brekaing out there though IW and EG space stuff didn't hurt. 

[oMeriMombatti]

11 minutes ago, Feanor said:

I wonder what it will take to make Star Wars popular in China.

 

I think a fresh start with new characters could help, but idk, it will still be associated with the ST simply due to the name and as we’ve seen, the Chinese don’t care for Star Wars, or at least for the ST.

Cast either The Rock or Vin Diesel in the next Star Wars  

[LegendaryBen]

6 minutes ago, AdrianL said:

So what will be above 5m on Christmas Day besides SW and Jumanji? Spies and Disguise and Little Women? 

LW will definitely. It has a better chance of approaching closer to 10m.

[LaughingEvans]

20 minutes ago, JohnnyGossamer said:

Huh? TFA 2B+, RO 1B+, TLJ 1.3B+, ROS 1.2B+ most likely. Mandalorian got folk signing up for D+ in hordes. 

 

4 billion property + well over a billion in production + whatever are the marketing costs. Let's say 5,5 billion.

 

From the box office you have 5,5 billion, but Disney would get around 50-60% domestic and 30% OS (cause someone's gotta pay for Buena Vista).  It's definitely lower than 3 billion.

 

Now merch and licensing, that can easily surpass the box office sales, but you have to account that Disney would get even less there, as for the most part they are not involved in the production/distribution, and the profits have to be shared with other giants like Hasbro and EA.

 

The theme parks have not been very successful, and the streaming service is definitely not just star wars, so it's not easy to measure.

 

 

Compared to other acquisitions like Pixar and Marvel, it's just not justifying the 4 billion investment, granted always that it's on decline.

 

[VanillaSkies]

Just now, LegendaryBen said:

LW will definitely. It has a better chance of approaching closer to 10m.

 

Uncut Gems is apparently still scheduled to go wide that day, so depending how wide it could also make it. 
Frozen 2 will most likely make it. It's Saturday gross will be 6+ million this weekend, and Christmas is usually bigger than the Saturday before. 
Heck, Bombshell even has a chance at 5m if the older crowd is waiting for the holiday to see it. Adult themed movies usually do quite well on that day. 

[Bart Allen]

1 minute ago, LaughingEvans said:

 

4 billion property + well over a billion in production + whatever are the marketing costs. Let's say 5,5 billion.

 

From the box office you have 5,5 billion, but Disney would get around 50-60% domestic and 30% OS (cause someone's gotta pay for Buena Vista).  It's definitely lower than 3 billion.

 

Now merch and licensing, that can easily surpass the box office sales, but you have to account that Disney would get even less there, as for the most part they are not involved in the production/distribution, and the profits have to be shared with other giants like Hasbro and EA.

 

The theme parks have not been very successful, and the streaming service is definitely not just star wars, so it's not easy to measure.

 

 

Compared to other acquisitions like Pixar and Marvel, it's just not justifying the 4 billion investment, granted always that it's on decline.

 

To much many were of the opinion that Disney overpaid during the acquisition ~

[filmlover]

9 minutes ago, AdrianL said:

So what will be above 5m on Christmas Day besides SW and Jumanji? Spies and Disguise and Little Women? 

The Wolf of Wall Street pulled a $9M+ opening day the last time Christmas fell on a Wednesday six years ago. Little Women pulling a similar start wouldn't be surprising.

[Gavin Feng]

4 minutes ago, Feanor said:

I wonder what it will take to make Star Wars popular in China.

 

I think a fresh start with new characters could help, but idk, it will still be associated with the ST simply due to the name and as we’ve seen, the Chinese don’t care for Star Wars, or at least for the ST.

 

these are pretty epic and funny to local audience. But I don't think Disney would make anything like prequel trilogy for China or any Asia market.

 

 

 

 

 

 

no offence but these make us feel more like old western cowboy movie. Why a sci-fi world looks so poor, simple and crude.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[misafeco]

23 minutes ago, Feanor said:

I wonder what it will take to make Star Wars popular in China.

 

I think a fresh start with new characters could help, but idk, it will still be associated with the ST simply due to the name and as we’ve seen, the Chinese don’t care for Star Wars, or at least for the ST.

That's easy. Crossover with Avengers. 

[sfran43]

 

[John Marston]

90m exact probably means 89 something 

[Bart Allen]

Just now, misafeco said:

That's easy. Crossover with Avengers. 

Can a Lightsaber go through Adamantium/Vibranium? 

[Valonqar]

1 minute ago, John Marston said:

90m exact probably means 89 something 

or 90,000,001 

[a2k]

3 minutes ago, John Marston said:

90m exact probably means 89 something 

jedi jat gave a 39.5 + 49.75 = 89.25 breakdown a few pages back

[misafeco]

2 minutes ago, Bart Allen said:

Can a Lightsaber go through Adamantium/Vibranium? 

Even if it does penetrate it, it would be slow like this:

[sfran43]

Early Weekend Estimates (Domestic)
FRI, DEC. 20 – SUN, DEC. 22

WIDE (1000+)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Star Wars: The Rise Of Skywalker	$186,500,000	—	4,406	—	$42,329	$186,500,000	1	Disney
2	Jumanji: The Next Level	$27,000,000	-54%	4,227	0	$6,388	$102,811,365	2	Sony Pictures
3	Frozen II	$12,600,000	-34%	3,665	-413	$3,438	$386,833,961	5	Disney
4	Cats	$8,000,000	—	3,380	—	$2,367	$8,000,000	1	Universal Pictures
5	Knives Out	$6,500,000	-29%	2,535	-878	$2,564	$89,948,909	4	Lionsgate
6	Bombshell	$5,500,000	1635%	1,480	1476	$3,716	$5,909,281	2	Lionsgate
7	Richard Jewell	$2,800,000	-40%	2,502	0	$1,119	$9,777,659	2	Warner Bros.
8	Queen & Slim	$2,000,000	-44%	1,078	-482	$1,855	$36,748,765	4	Universal Pictures
9	Ford v. Ferrari	$1,900,000	-53%	1,433	-1462	$1,326	$102,061,608	6	20th Century Fox
10	Black Christmas	$1,800,000	-58%	2,625	0	$686	$7,248,650	2	Universal Pictures
11	A Beautiful Day in the Neighborhood	$1,500,000	-54%	1,524	-1331	$984	$52,695,051	5	Sony Pictures

LIMITED (100 — 999)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Dark Waters	$300,000	-84%	451	-1659	$665	$10,055,609	5	Focus Features
2	A Hidden Life	$280,000	456%	106	101	$2,642	$352,143	2	Fox Searchlight
3	21 Bridges	$220,000	-81%	350	-1183	$629	$27,155,123	5	STX Entertainment
4	Jojo Rabbit	$200,000	-46%	230	-170	$870	$20,407,194	10	Fox Searchlight
5	Playing with Fire	$200,000	-70%	287	-1094	$697	$43,773,059	7	Paramount Pictures
6	Midway	$185,000	-79%	283	-1136	$654	$55,913,729	7	Lionsgate
7	Last Christmas	$160,000	-65%	274	-342	$584	$34,848,055	7	Universal Pictures
8	Joker	$155,000	-67%	201	-352	$771	$333,468,468	12	Warner Bros.
9	Harriet	$125,000	-71%	203	-437	$616	$42,236,530	8	Focus Features
10	Maleficent: Mistress of Evil	$115,000	-31%	180	-165	$639	$112,924,674	10	Disney
11	Abominable	$95,000	27%	146	-13	$651	$60,567,660	13	Universal Pictures
12	Terminator: Dark Fate	$46,000	-65%	120	-130	$383	$62,196,065	8	Paramount

PLATFORM (1 — 99)

#	TITLE	WEEKEND		LOCATIONS		AVG.	TOTAL	WKS.	DIST.
1	Playmobil: The Movie	$80,000	-44%	66	-1392	$1,212	$1,143,213	3	STX Entertainment
2	Countdown	$36,000	-20%	42	-68	$857	$25,575,747	9	STX Entertainment
3	No Safe Spaces	$16,000	-85%	36	-129	$444	$1,131,185	9	Atlas Distribution
4	En Brazos de un Asesino	$8,000	-88%	24	-136	$333	$412,255	3	Lionsgate / Pantelion Films

Edited December 21, 2019 by sfran43

[MrGlass2]

51 minutes ago, fastclock said:

They need a Feige-like person that controls the overall story of the trilogy.

Or even better, a Lucas.

[JohnnyGossamer]

China? Give a few Star Wars movies to Stephen Chow or Tsui Hark. They'll be more fun than these new Disney ones. 

[Bart Allen]

5 minutes ago, misafeco said:

Even if it does penetrate it, it would be slow like this:

Interesting lol ~

 

Then again it just depends if the heat can reduce it - depending on the melting point of both those metals ~

Edited December 21, 2019 by Bart Allen

[Feanor]

11 minutes ago, Deep Wang said:

Space sci-fi also just doesn't fare that well in China compared to other genres.  

True, but Star Wars’ Chinese numbers are really just tragic. TLJ only grossed $42M and TROS is gonna gross even less.

Star Trek is probably the closest thing to Star Wars, and even the last two Star Trek movies performed better there than the TLJ + TROS

Not the mention the $100M+ grosses of GOTG2 and Interstellar. Sure, the former had the help of the MCU brand and the latter was more grounded and “realistic”, which may have helped.

 

But it seems like other space sci-fi movies have no problems grossing over $50M in China, yet Star Wars will have failed to reach that with its 3 most recent movies.

 

To me that seems like the Chinese really don’t like the franchise itself, on top of the lesser popularity of the genre.