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finally i can complete my terrible ranking

 

1. Casino Royale

2. Licence to Kill

3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

4. From Russia With Love

5. Skyfall

6. Tomorrow Never Dies

7. You Only Live Twice

8. Goldeneye

9. Never Say Never Again

10. Goldfinger

11. The Living Daylights

12. No Time To Die

13. The Spy Who Loved Me

14. The Man With The Golden Gun

15. Quantum of Solace

16. Dr. No

17. The World is Not Enough

18. Die Another Day

19. SPECTRE

20. Diamonds are Forever

21. Moonraker

22. Live and Let Die

23. For Your Eyes Only

24. Octopussy

25. Thunderball

26. A View to a Kill

27. Casino Royale

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17 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

finally i can complete my terrible ranking

 

1. Casino Royale

2. Licence to Kill

3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

4. From Russia With Love

5. Skyfall

6. Tomorrow Never Dies

7. You Only Live Twice

8. Goldeneye

9. Never Say Never Again

10. Goldfinger

11. The Living Daylights

12. No Time To Die

13. The Spy Who Loved Me

14. The Man With The Golden Gun

15. Quantum of Solace

16. Dr. No

17. The World is Not Enough

18. Die Another Day

19. SPECTRE

20. Diamonds are Forever

21. Moonraker

22. Live and Let Die

23. For Your Eyes Only

24. Octopussy

25. Thunderball

26. A View to a Kill

27. Casino Royale

It's not that terrible a ranking. Sure, there's a few rankings I don't necessarily agree with, but there's also just as much I do agree with, and if everyone had the same opinions about everything nothing would be done.

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38 minutes ago, CoolioD1 said:

finally i can complete my terrible ranking

 

1. Casino Royale

2. Licence to Kill

3. On Her Majesty's Secret Service

4. From Russia With Love

5. Skyfall

6. Tomorrow Never Dies

7. You Only Live Twice

8. Goldeneye

9. Never Say Never Again

10. Goldfinger

11. The Living Daylights

12. No Time To Die

13. The Spy Who Loved Me

14. The Man With The Golden Gun

15. Quantum of Solace

16. Dr. No

17. The World is Not Enough

18. Die Another Day

19. SPECTRE

20. Diamonds are Forever

21. Moonraker

22. Live and Let Die

23. For Your Eyes Only

24. Octopussy

25. Thunderball

26. A View to a Kill

27. Casino Royale

I disagree with a lot of these placements but that's the fun of this series, no one's rankings are the same.

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1 hour ago, Pinacolada said:

In response to TLJ talk comparisons: I stumbled across a Youtuber called The Critical Drinker, who seems to be having really high viewership these days among Film reviewers on Youtube. And Oh my god, his comment section is disgusting. From what I've gathered he's someone like Geeks and Gamers or whatever who is quick to call out anything remotely "progressive" as PC  or woke. I didn't really pay much attention to his review, I don't think he was being too nasty, but my god his comment section was shocking. Didn't know the James Bond fandom is also so shitty but it makes sense I guess. 

 

I haven't seen the film, but I don't think it's gonna be TLJ. I think the US and casual fans (like myself and my friends) are gonna respond to it well, but within the die hard James Bond community, it definitely is gonna be a bit like TLJ. 

 

I had to turn him off after 1 minute, I can't handle that ridiculous voice act. 

 

Unless this is an uninspired movie with awkward structural pacing issues with a lot of stodgy dead end plotting without momentum, I just don't see TLJ comparisons happening.  If people actually cared about what was happening in that movie, a lot of the noise about "wokeness" would've been drowned out.   I think Fury Road is a great example, that movie had rather obvious feminist undertones and Furiosa even sometimes sidelines Max in his own movie yet I don't remember hearing much complaining about that at all because it was organic and the movie was so fucking awesome.  This isn't to say that there aren't chuds and internet reactionaries who will always whine about anything being remotely "progressive" in every new movie that comes out, but I do think the overall quality of the movies directly impacts the level of attention and noise they make and I don't think NTTD will be any different.  We'll see what happens when it opens in the US since we're ground zero for this kind of controversy.

 

 

 

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5 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

I think Fury Road is a great example, that movie had rather obvious feminist undertones and Furiosa even sometimes sidelines Max in his own movie yet I don't remember hearing much complaining about that at all because it was organic and the movie was so fucking awesome.

 

 

 

LAST JEDI is the sequel to a film that made $2 billion. FURY ROAD made $374 million worldwide.

 

And that's not even getting into a clear pre-/post-GHOSTBUSTERS 2016 split when it comes to angry internet trolls going nuts about wokeness and realizing they could monetize the outrage.

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39 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

 

I had to turn him off after 1 minute, I can't handle that ridiculous voice act. 

 

Unless this is an uninspired movie with awkward structural pacing issues with a lot of stodgy dead end plotting without momentum, I just don't see TLJ comparisons happening.  If people actually cared about what was happening in that movie, a lot of the noise about "wokeness" would've been drowned out.   I think Fury Road is a great example, that movie had rather obvious feminist undertones and Furiosa even sometimes sidelines Max in his own movie yet I don't remember hearing much complaining about that at all because it was organic and the movie was so fucking awesome.  This isn't to say that there aren't chuds and internet reactionaries who will always whine about anything being remotely "progressive" in every new movie that comes out, but I do think the overall quality of the movies directly impacts the level of attention and noise they make and I don't think NTTD will be any different.  We'll see what happens when it opens in the US since we're ground zero for this kind of controversy.

 

 

 

 

I've heard complaints about the lack of Mad Max in Fury Road but not in the sense that they wanted less Furiosa. There were just some odd choices where the titled character goes to be a hero 'off camera' and all we see is him come back covered in blood. I felt like it was one over Hardy's weaker performances too, he seemed to lack charisma which you need if you're replacing Mel Gibson whereas Theron killed it. The only parts of his performance I really liked was his early narration, but then he's silent for half the movie which makes little sense to me as Hardy's voice is his greatest asset. 

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59 minutes ago, Ozymandias said:

 

I had to turn him off after 1 minute, I can't handle that ridiculous voice act. 

 

Unless this is an uninspired movie with awkward structural pacing issues with a lot of stodgy dead end plotting without momentum, I just don't see TLJ comparisons happening.  If people actually cared about what was happening in that movie, a lot of the noise about "wokeness" would've been drowned out.   I think Fury Road is a great example, that movie had rather obvious feminist undertones and Furiosa even sometimes sidelines Max in his own movie yet I don't remember hearing much complaining about that at all because it was organic and the movie was so fucking awesome.  This isn't to say that there aren't chuds and internet reactionaries who will always whine about anything being remotely "progressive" in every new movie that comes out, but I do think the overall quality of the movies directly impacts the level of attention and noise they make and I don't think NTTD will be any different.  We'll see what happens when it opens in the US since we're ground zero for this kind of controversy.

 

 

 

Fury Road does have strong feminist element but it didn't downgrade male in any sense. There are plenty of bad ass moments from Max and Nux's heroic scarify. The movie showcase just how masculinity and feminist are able to coexist. Unlike TLJ , which just straight out mocking almost every male characters including Luke. 

 

 

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12 hours ago, titanic2187 said:

Fury Road does have strong feminist element but it didn't downgrade male in any sense. There are plenty of bad ass moments from Max and Nux's heroic scarify. The movie showcase just how masculinity and feminist are able to coexist. Unlike TLJ , which just straight out mocking almost every male characters including Luke. 

 

 

 

This. Laura Dearn's character was so over the top too, she acted exactly like her hair style. She kept her plan hidden so when Po naturally raises his concern, she is able to use her authority and make him look like the irresponsible guy. It was such a forced scene which was luckily saved by her sacrifice which was the best shot scene in any Star Wars movie. I mean even Rey seemed to have all her powers in the first movie, she didn't need to train to defeat the universe's most deadly enemy. It just felt right to her.

 

James Cameron made the best female heroes.  He never had to sexualise them, he didn't have to give them god powers, he just made them believable badasses. Even Wonder Woman 2, watching that the other day and couldn't help but notice just how much they need to sexualise her. It's not progressive when I can see her ass cheeks during action scenes lol. James Cameron was right 

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Mad max and the TLJ are not in the same bracket at all.

The only problem I feel is that tom hardy wasn't given much to do. Max and furiousa worked well together and respected each other. Max wasn't dumbed down or ridiculed in any way. 
Furiousa has a feminist touch but it was  closer to Sarah o'connor and ripley characters than those in  TLJ that felt more like plot devices than characters tbh.

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2 hours ago, Liiviig 1998 said:

Mad max and the TLJ are not in the same bracket at all.

The only problem I feel tom hardy wasn't given much to do. Max and furiousa worked well together and respected each other. Max wasn't dumbed down or ridiculed in any way. 
Furiousa has a feminist touch but it was closer Sarah o'connor and ripley characters than those in  TLJ that felt more like plot devices than characters tbh.

 

To be fair, Max is always a secondary character in his movies.

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