Shang-Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings | Marvel Studios | 92% RT & 99% VA Score | ONLY IN THEATERS Sep 3 2021

[TheDude391]

I generally hate the third act CGI finales in these superhero films but I hope this one at least goes completely insane like Aquaman (one of the only times I enjoyed a third act battle). Seeing it tonight.

[Cooper Legion]

Ticked up to 93/99 over on RT as reactions keep trickling in. 

[Macleod]

21 hours ago, tonytr87 said:

 

To be clear, I'm not saying that Chinese audiences SHOULD go for these. I mean it's hysterical that Hollywood desperately wants their money and therefore spends all of this money on Asian-centric material, only for it to backfire completely. 

 

On the other hand, half of this is more so due to arbitrary censorship BS. 

 

I think it's all more complicated than that.  It's very easy and cynical to say "Hollywood/Disney/Marvel just want Chinese dollars and made this movie to appeal to China."  I would like to think Feige is smarter, broader thinker than that.  There is a huge Asian-American community and diaspora worldwide whose children will be inspired with a movie like this, whether it's "critically acclaimed" or not.  And also on a Gender level.  I saw an international interview/promo with some local Hong Kongers, and when asked to identify all the Avengers in a poster, a couple of the men easily identified the male characters and barely mentioned Black Widow.  A little girl mentioned Black Widow first.  (But even the local interviewer wasn't pronouncing "Shang-Chi" right, and they made jokes about it within the video!)  🤣

 

20 hours ago, WittyUsername said:

There is a certain irony in China rejecting a superhero film that was made in large part to appeal to that market. And before anyone jumps at me, I’m not saying that’s the sole reason this movie was made, but considering Disney’s track record of trying to appease China, it’s not difficult to imagine that this movie may have been prioritized partly for that reason. 

Again, I'm not sure I would quite agree that the film was made "in a large part" to appeal to the China market.  But I'm sure that Disney *hoped* it would, yes...  

 

10 hours ago, charlie Jatinder said:

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Some Elrich guy ruining the perfect 199 because he didn't try to watch series before the movie and gave a rotten review. Like why the hell even review/grade it then if you are ignorant.

 

"Some Ehrlich guy" is David Ehrlich, a film critic that has been writing for years for very legitimate and established publications, and seems like a reasonably well-educated fellow. 😉  It is his job to do a bit of research on the topic, yes, but not his job to "have seen all of a preceding anime series" to understand a feature film.  That should be no-one's job.  A film (ideally) shouldn't require that.  And educating yourself about the market and who's actually reviewing films also helps.  

 

http://www.davidehrlichfilm.com/

 

Edited September 3, 2021 by Macleod

[tonytr87]

34 minutes ago, Macleod said:

 

I think it's all more complicated than that.  It's very easy and cynical to say "Hollywood/Disney/Marvel just want Chinese dollars and made this movie to appeal to China."  I would like to think Feige is smarter, broader thinker than that.  There is a huge Asian-American community and diaspora worldwide whose children will be inspired with a movie like this, whether it's "critically acclaimed" or not.  And also on a Gender level.  I saw an international interview/promo with some local Hong Kongers, and when asked to identify all the Avengers in a poster, a couple of the men easily identified the male characters and barely mentioned Black Widow.  A little girl mentioned Black Widow first.  (But even the local interviewer wasn't pronouncing "Shang-Chi" right, and they made jokes about it within the video!)  🤣

 

Again, I'm not sure I would quite agree that the film was made "in a large part" to appeal to the China market.  But I'm sure that Disney *hoped* it would, yes...  

 

"Some Ehrlich guy" is David Ehrlich, a film critic that has been writing for years for very legitimate and established publications, and seems like a reasonably well-educated fellow. 😉  It is his job to do a bit of research on the topic, yes, but not his job to "have seen all of a preceding anime series" to understand a feature film.  That should be no-one's job.  A film (ideally) shouldn't require that.  And educating yourself about the market and who's actually reviewing films also helps.  

 

http://www.davidehrlichfilm.com/

 

 

I agree with what you're saying. My sentiment is directed more so at the larger picture of Hollywood, specifically Disney, clearly making an effort to break into China in a big way over the last eight years or so. Feige and co. likely would've wanted to make Shang Chi regardless, and you could argue it's a simple coincidence that Mulan, Raya, and Shang Chi fell in the span of months of one another, but the Disney brass are definitely aiming for it. And given the relative failure of that effort so far, it's quite funny. 

[exomassey]

It’s great fun. Good action, hilarious and beautiful visuals.
 

I actually thought the CGI was pretty good in the 3rd act (especially with the dragons). The only thing you really notice sometimes is a green screen background. 
 

The only real issue I think is exposition. There is a lot of it especially with Leung and Yeoh. It sort of took away from their characters but there such good actors they make it work.

 

Simu Liu isn’t a great actor but he does have charisma. I think he will improve as he works more but he struggled to sell the emotional aspects of the film here. The surprise character, his sister, father and Awkwafina steal the movie from him.

[lor15]

I think the movie is amazing. Top tier MCU for me.

[TheDude391]

I thought this was quite good until the third act. The family drama and everything with Tony Leung was great. I was rooting for him half the time, he's too cool. The bus scene looked awful from the trailers but was actually the highlight for me, great action set piece. Simu Liu was likeable and the story while familiar was executed well. Awkwafina was hit or miss but the other comedic relief was great. The third act does go more fantastical and "crazy" which I liked but the movie is so ugly to look at that it kills that fantasy vibe. Final battle takes place on an overcast cloudy day, so much gray. Outside of the underground fight ring and the wuxia flashback with Leung, the whole film looked cheap and flat. 

7/10 

Edited September 4, 2021 by TheDude391

[lorddemaxus]

Bill Pope is dead. Its William Pope now. This guy shoots movies like a CW show.

[imbruglia]

A Cinemascore

 

92% & 7.5  RT Critics from 227 Reviews

98% Verified Audience Score from +2.5k Reviews

 

[Saul Goodman]

Damn, the word of mouth is really strong.

[JWR]

Absolutely loved it. Theater was packed and the crowd was eating it up!

[FilmFincher]

It's a pretty good MCU film! Solid plot, arcs, pace, endearing/likeable characters, excited for their future, great hand-to-hand combat choreography and coverage, actual fantasy elements and really funny throughout.

 

It's lacking on the villain side, CGI/green screen/big set-pieces are average/uninspired, homogenous colour grade, serviceable music and sound design. Couldn't tell you if it was directed by one particular person but it gets the job done better than some of it's peers. 

 

I had fun.

 

7.5/10 

Edited September 4, 2021 by FilmFincher

[EmpireCity]

About 4-5 weeks ago when everyone was in full freak out mode, I told everyone not to doubt this movie and it was going to shock the hell out of the industry.  

 

Now here we are and it has a shot to beat Black Widow's opening weekend.  Incredible.  

[Cooper Legion]

Meeting reasonable expectations dead on I guess. Neither under nor over performance based on what we saw two weeks ago....  

 

 

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[Valonqar]

BW dom total is a toast. SC opening as big as BW + much better WOM (I don't mean Cinemascore but reactions I'm seeing) + dead September (thank you Venom 2!) =over 200M. Since BW couldn't hit 400M WW, SC should easily pass it without China. 

[SpiderByte]

Shang-Chi in is about to do for Labor Day/September what Guardians did for August

[Fox20]

I'm so glad for it, Simu deserves it and the movie being actually great deserves it as well.

[AdrianL]

This being the first film since Bad Boys to do $200m would be awesome. 

[The GOAT]

Noticeably big difference between Tony Leung and Simu Liu.   

There's also an overload of characters just dumping exposition on me.  

The Hand to Hand fight scenes were absolutely stellar and dynamic. Just Wish They had a color grading that made it feel more thrilling.

[dudalb]

I think we have seen the last  hybrid release for a MCU film for a long time.

I always thought this was the most problematic Marvel film so far since it was pretty obscure to contemporary audinces charecter. (let's face it, he was an attempt to cash in on the Kung Fu/Asian Martial Arts craze of the 70's and got little exposure in the Marvel Univers after his book was cancelled in 1981) but the sucess of this flm proves that the Marvel Studio label has box office value. It's really unusual for a studio to get brand value like that.