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[The Panda]

3 minutes ago, Rthhome said:

76.5-78.5

I’m telling you guys, TLK2019 has bad WoM with kids!

[Yandereprime101189]

Just now, That One Guy said:

 

Good, good....

 

Lol, it's still not going to bomb. 

 

All ya'll doom and gloom and it's still gonna make more than Disney will know what to do with.

[OncomingStorm93]

Charlie with the 35 minutes of higher hopes

[excel1]

5 hours ago, narniadis said:

To correct Excel on a point that shouldn't need to be said considering how long he has been around, previews were never counted in the opening day before the 2012 massacre and change in habits / reporting. BOM is not making things up or incorrectly reporting things be it for I.D. or for Pirates 3 and Shrek 3 or even Superman 2013. 

We're trying to make it an apples-to-apples comparison. We count insane preview numbers for Avengers, Star Wars, etc - not sure why we wouldn't do it for others.

 

Also need to note that Mojo isn't the only box office resource. Easy to find news outlets that lump previews in for the opening weekends of Batman 1989, Matrix Reloaded, ID4, The Lost World, Batman Forever, and others. It's really only Mojo that cherry picks when count them and when to separate them. 

 

Very silly to not factor them into older films but then factor them in for newer films. Almost as silly as acting like 3D didn't totally change the game. 

 

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The shift to including previews as part of OD was a big uproar that BOM actually faught against since it would skew other / older data to look weird when it was actually correct. 

 

It isn't "actually correct". 99% of the people who went to see Batman on Thursday night in 1989 would have gone on over the weekend had the showing not existed, just as 99% of the people who saw Endgame Thursday night would have gone over the weekend had the showings not existed.  

 

This is a very dumb, petty issue. We count them for current films, we should count them for older films that were ahead of their time. 

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Also, ignore him when it comes to OW stuff, any opportunity to down Avengers touching 200m before his precious Dark Knight could is one that he hasnt failed to take in the last 7 years. Which is another thing that makes his higher ranking for Harry 8 all the more eyebrow raising. 

 

This is totally wrong. Virtually every other industry measures popularity by units sold, not gross dollars. How many albums were sold, how many tickets did the game, how many viewers watched the show, etc. Film going by gross dollars makes it much harder to make comparisons. Even ticket admissions isn't really fair game given varying screen count and streaming rise.

 

But why argue what experts have said?

 

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/dark-knight-rises-tickets-box-office-352081

 

"Both those films had the advantage of being released in 3D; roughly $35 million of the opening weekend gross for Avengers came from the 3D upcharge."

 

Avengers gross is nuts but we're measuring hype and popularity. TDK inflates to $176 in 2012 dollars while Avengers is only $172 with 3D removed. It is a completely valid and legitimate claim that TDK sold more tickets. Whats the issue here. 

Edited July 20, 2019 by excel1

[Biggestgeekever]

4 minutes ago, Rthhome said:

76.5-78.5

Obviously still boffo box office, but it's now at the point where I wonder if not going so photorealistic and instead producing some visual panache akin to the original could have pushed this considerably higher.

[jedijake]

8 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

Maybe a 15% chance? Would need $70m tomorrow. 

If you use BatB's numbers, then it's $220 million.

TS4: $208 million

 

Yes, there is room for $210 million. I'd say a little more than 15%. But it's arbitrary anyway.

[Ryan Reynolds]

estimates dropping ? Disney scheduled too many "live action" remakes this year.

[The Panda]

Kids to The Lion King 2019

 

[infamous5445]

Hold up, there's actually a chance TLK doesn't make it to 200M?

[RealLyre]

10 minutes ago, Rthhome said:

76.5-78.5

Baumer's club back on the table

[superduperm]

I don’t see $200M happening anymore. That’s not a great multiplier.

[That One Girl]

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Edited March 2, 2022 by That One Guy

[Porthos]

6 minutes ago, VenomXXR said:

 

Now the multiplier is just getting bad....

Still don't know what the Sat jump will be or the Tue number for that matter (what @TwoMisfits termed Family Opening Day [or something like that], IIRC).

 

Also, this IS a known quality and it's not like there will be a rush to see it to avoid spoilers.  There is a decent argument to be made that this doesn't have a rush factor at all.  Frankly we don't know what the legs of this film will be yet nor how the GA will react.

 

Plenty of time for this film to rake in silly amounts of cash.

[ThomasNicole]

with $ 76.5M it's doing around $ 183M

with $ 78.5M it's doing close to $ 190M

if $ 81M mantains (and it's possible, i remember TS4 Charlie numbers being more accurate than RTH), then close to $ 200M

 

Anyway, a smash hit. But hey, at least will be a success and still make people who desperately wants to see this fail happy when it only does $ 500M DOM, everybody wins.

[OncomingStorm93]

7 minutes ago, The Panda said:

I’m telling you guys, TLK2019 has bad WoM with kids!

I didn't realize WoM would spread through the summer camps during opening day!

[Ryan Reynolds]

LION KING (2019), THE

[The Panda]

1 minute ago, OncomingStorm93 said:

I didn't realize WoM would spread through the summer camps during opening day!

Tele Jr has already told all of his friends that it’s no bueno

[MrPink]

1 minute ago, That One Guy said:

 

 

 

 

[Curtis1986]

The Lion King has received an A cinemascore. Looks like families and kids are definitely loving it.

[Legion Again]

12 minutes ago, Rthhome said:

76.5-78.5

On the low end could miss Civil War and leave MCU with top 6/10